11587 Inheritance

Hi Looch

This seems a very complicated situation.

I would advise that you make sure you have all the facts before you venture out to Italy.

For example

1. Do you have any proof that either your mum or dad owned any Italian property on their deaths?
2. If the land/house you think belonged to your mum is registered in another name are you sure it was not sold or mortgaged?

Looch, I am sorry to hear about your situation; however, your lawyer should be able to clarify things for you. Even if your parents are dead, you are their sole heir and you have rights over whatever was owned by them. Dealing with relatives, is a different matter and perhaps it is better for you to be represented by a lawyer rather than trying to deal with matters yourself.
Do you have details regarding the properties which belonged to your parents? If you have lot numbers, addresses, etc. it is possible nowadays to get certificates, etc. even through Internet.
Anyway, best wishes and keep us informed about your progress.

About the proof, everyone knew my parents and what they owned so they know that it is mine. My mom always went every year over there to try and sell stuff after my dad passed away. The last time I went there was when my dad passed away and I went there to bury him. He made a copella over there and his wishes were to be flown there and be buried there. I do have a box full of papers which is all in Italian (lucky me) and there are things that says about what they own I guess. I will be picking up the box today and looking through it again to see if there are numbers or addresses. I do recall there were maps.

The house that the lot has a different name, the guy agreed to change it properly, its the court that is taking this long to get it settled. The house is being rented out at the moment so no it isn't sold or anything like that. Everyone knows that it is mine since all my aunts live all in a line next to each other lol, I know it's funny but that's how the houses are. The place where they are from is a place where everyone knows who is who cause its in a little town.

My big issue is knowing about the will situation about if the Canadian has anything to do with the stuff in Italy. ug

Thank you for your concerns and help. I will defiantly keep you posted on what I learn or find out.

Was the property/land in Italy bought by your parents or did one of them inherit it from their parents? If it is the former then indeed you are the legal heir. If your parents inherited it from their parents and they were an only child the result would be the same. If your parents had siblings then they would also have a share in the said property. Is the guy who's name the house is in a relative who might also have a share in the house? If so then it is a whole different ball game. :veryconfused:

I had all this statement written out and I pressed a button and it erased it all damn it lol. The land was inherited from their parents so there are no issues there, thank god. The guy's name on the lots is not an issue because he agreed to change them. (they did this way in the past to save money the old way).

My issue is finding out if I have to follow the will in Canada of how the money is being handled. In Italy it says I would get it all but I am wondering if we have to follow the Canadian will which never mentioned anything about the stuff in Italy.

[quote=looch;109851].......My issue is finding out if I have to follow the will in Canada of how the money is being handled. In Italy it says I would get it all but I am wondering if we have to follow the Canadian will which never mentioned anything about the stuff in Italy.[/quote]

I strongly advise talking to a Canadian lawyer who has good knowledge of Italian law [I assumed such a person does exist]

I 'Googled' "Canada, Italian Lawyer" and several possibilities popped on to the screen, such as [url=http://canadaitalylaw.com/]Sara Riboldi : Canadian and Italian lawyer[/url] who looks as though she could have the necessary capabilities to help.

Good Luck

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The procedure for transferring the property in Italy into your name does involve some lengthy paperwork I am afraid.

It should not matter that the Canadian will does not mention the Italian property. If in the will it was stated that your mother "leaves her entire estate to you" then this is taken as meaning all property to which she has legal title worldwide.

To prove that you are entitled to inherit the property in Italy, you may arrange to have your mother's Canadian will and her death certificate translated into Italian and "published" before a Notary. You must then make a declaration of succession within one year of her death (you will need to explain why this was not made in time) lodged with the Tax Authorities here. The tax you are due to pay will be quite minimal (a few hundred Euro) given that you are a direct descendant. Once the declaration of succession has been made you request the Land Registry to formally transfer the property into your name.

It may also be possible to make a declaration of succession in Italy as you are the sole heir without referring to the will in Canada, but by making an "atto notorio" before a Notary declaring that you are the sole heir.

I would say that you need to take further advice from a Notary in Italy as to which of these procdures you should follow, and whether you aunt should also be involved as Executor.

You would be able to organise the procedure by giving a power of attorney to a professional here so would not necessarily have to travel to Italy. Alternatively if you arranged the translation of the will and death certifiate (which must be sworn translations) in Canada you could travel to Italy and organise the paper work within the space of a few weeks, assuming there were no other complications.

I hope this is helpful.

Charlotte Oliver

so I did go see a lawyer he said the will here in Canada does not include the estate in Italy. And when I do my taxes that I do not claim anything over here in Canada because it is a gift that I did not earn it, working wise. He also said that no my aunt does not need to say anything that my mom owns anything in Italy since I am the owner. He also said that if I wanted to do the work from here that I would have to hire a lawyer over there to do all the stuff and then send what I have to sign over here that I could have the lawyer here be the witness. I am actually going to Italy to do all the crap over there instead of paying twice the price. The reason because the will does not pertain over there is because there was no will made over there. Plus I ran through some papers and saw that I owned half when my dad passed away which I thought for some odd reason that I only owned 25%. Good thing I looked through the papers and even found those answers on the internet. I do not know if my aunt will follow this information about not putting down anything of my mom owning anything because she is afraid it will come back to her and she would pay the price. But the thing is, the lawyer said no to me that she doesn't have to do that and if anything ever did happen I would take care of it anyway.

So will keep you posted to what happens when I go there :O)

SUBJECT: [U]INHERITANCE of ITALIAN ASSETS[/U]
Hello
Our office addresses these issues daily for the Italian community living outside of Italy. The specific area of concentration is succession law which governs the transfer of assets to the next generation. This does not happen automatically. You must file documents to transfer title to you.

-You do not have to go to Italy to file for the transfer.
-You are under Italian law for the filing of succession documents.
- Two declarations of succesion have to filed (each with about 6 support documents). The property with the filing of your first set of docs (for your father) will transit all assets to your mother and you (50% each). With the second filing your mother's interest will pass to you leaving you as the only child with 100% interest.
-The will written in Canada did not dispose of the Italian assets. Better and less complicated.
-Understand you do not hold title yet, only the right to take title. (You will go on title later).
- For more information on the property distribution of assets, send me a PM.

Hello. Thank you so much for your response. I would like to pm you but it says you are not accepting any pm's?? :O) Can you let me know when I can?

[quote=italianlaw;110878]SUBJECT: [U]INHERITANCE of ITALIAN ASSETS[/U]
Hello
Our office addresses these issues daily for the Italian community living outside of Italy. The specific area of concentration is succession law which governs the transfer of assets to the next generation. This does not happen automatically. You must file documents to transfer title to you.

-You do not have to go to Italy to file for the transfer.
-You are under Italian law for the filing of succession documents.
- Two declarations of succesion have to filed (each with about 6 support documents). The property with the filing of your first set of docs (for your father) will transit all assets to your mother and you (50% each). With the second filing your mother's interest will pass to you leaving you as the only child with 100% interest.
-The will written in Canada did not dispose of the Italian assets. Better and less complicated.
-Understand you do not hold title yet, only the right to take title. (You will go on title later).
- For more information on the property distribution of assets, send me a PM.[/quote]

PM is enabled at least that what it says in the Control Panel.

Sonia Alioto
[url=http://www.italianlaw.net]Welcome - Italian Law[/url]
[email]italianlaw@comcast.net[/email]

So I click on your name and choose send private message and it says the same thing. Can you send me a pm so maybe it will work that way?? :O)

Please contact us via our office email
[email]italianlaw@comcast.net[/email]

or via Skype. PM back and forth is not an efficient use of time. There is just too to understand and write about. Live conversations are more an efficient use of time.

Sonia Alioto

A caveat- these guys are not lawyers, despite the word "law" in their name.

I am sorry to say you know nothing about Italian administrative law. So no snipping until you are an informed on the process for filings in Italy and other countries that apply succession law.

Sonia Alioto
[url]www.italanlaw.net[/url]

I am kind of confused. Noma makes the claim that you are not a lawyer despite claiming to offer assistance in the area of Italian administrative law. Your response accuses Noma of snipping and being uninformed in this area of legal matters. Fair enough. But to be honest you really did not respond directly to Noma's caveat. Maybe just to set the record straight once and for all it would be a good idea to post your complete credentials including exactly in which state bar in the USA (would assume California since your address is San Francisco) you are licensed. In this way others needing legal services can have confidence in your training and ability. If indeed you are not licensed to practice law than that also is fine but it would probably be better to be upfront about the fact that you are providing information as a lay person who perhaps has an interest in legal matters but is not a licensed member of the legal profession. It is always best to be upfront and clear about these issues so as to avoid any misunderstandings. In the UK practicing law without a license is unwise. I would assume the same is true for our American cousins. Some people may need only information from a lay person interested in legal matters, others may need access to a licensed professional. So which type of advice are you offering?

Since our office deals in Italian adminstrative matters, the conclusion ... and tendency...that we are registed with the American Bar in the State of California comes to wrong conclusion. This is an error that many make. We do not deal in American law.

Let me try to be clearer in a few sentences. Our clients are non-Italian attorneys and private clients living outside of Italy who usually know nothing or very little on how Italian administrative law functions. The law allows anyone to file succession documents, for example, provided they are professionals: 'latin" notoraries, attorneys, appraisers. However, the law permits any citizen with the preparation to understand a subject to file documents to transfer title. The subject matter is complex requiring the knowledge of many formal issues for the filing of this ADMINISTRATIVE process. Thus the average person does not have the experience to file and usually hires someone who knows the filing process, the tax codes, the calculation for the transfer fees, etc. etc. Again anyone may file for one's own family OR give a power of attorney (POA) to someone else to file for them, be it professional or trusted person. Of course, the POA implies responsibility for the filing and the transfer.

Thus in the filing 'line' when one files to trasnfer title at the Agenzia delle entrate, one may find a lawyer, a notaio, an appraiser or a butcher whose son studied law and knows the concept of Italian succession law and has studied the numerous details of the filing process consisting of several documents for each succession filing. (There are about 6-7 documents to filed in the correct seqence with the correct Italian Governmental Agencies.

I am a Italian graduduate law student who has worked for many years in a law office in Italy. In the last 7 years I have have handled at least 100 succession filing, transfered many parcels of land and stuctures, paid in some cases inheritances taxes for others, and obtained at least $2-3,000,000 Euros from banks in estate matters, from the sale of real estate that the heirs in other countries desired to sell after inheiriting the assets.

Recapping: many unfamiliar with the laws of Italy.. and France for that matter... think that a lawyer is requred. This professional is needed when the heirs are in disagreement and the matter goes to the Italian courts. If this is the case , our office works with both Italian attorneys and their counterparts in different countries only when the case is NOT purely adminsitrative. Most inheritance matters are administrative in nature not necessarily requiring an attorney.

Conclusion: one must NOT reason with an American mindset

In Italian we say: Paese che vai usanza che trovi.

For those requiring further clarification, I suggesion you check other official sources to substantiate what has been stated above

Sonia Alioto
[url=http://www.italianlaw.net]Welcome - Italian Law[/url]

[quote]I am a Italian graduduate law student who has worked for many years in a law office in Italy. [/quote]
In other words, you are not a lawyer.

Correct, but most of the succesions fillings in Italy are not done by lawyers.... if you took time to read what I wrote. Some peolple only see things in black and white, Noma.

I will let Noma answer the questions from now on. I do not need this crap. Good by folks.

Sonia Alioto

Noma, can you direct me to the part/place where Sonia and/or others connected to "Italian Law" actually claim/s to be (a) lawyer/s, because I cannot find it.

What I find fascinating is that "pietropaolopaoli" appears to have joined the forum in order to put Sonia "on the spot". Nowt wrong with that in itself, but it does seem highly coincidental and - knowing how often this seems to be happening on the forum recently - it makes me wonder if this is also a similar situation where of some kind of entrapment or conspiracy policy is occuring.

What say you?

[quote=italianlaw;111015]Correct, but most of the succesions fillings in Italy are not done by lawyers.... [/quote]

very true... my Italian sister in law (not a lawyer, but worked in a lawyer's office for 15 years) has a freelance practice similar here in Italy. She works on a freelance basis for dozens of different lawyers and sometimes lay individuals when the matter is purely administrative. She basically does all the work for the lawyers, so they don't have to pay a fulltime "impiegata" (the impiegato/a in the lawyer or notary's office is almost always the one who actually writes the contracts, does all the ground work etc, with the lawyer/notary overseeing everything and "signing off" i.e. taking all the responsibility). By not having to employ someone fulltime the law office saves a packet and doesn't have the hassle of dealing with maternity leave, "tredicesima" bonuses and contributi etc. I know of another similar outfit working solely for notaries too, and again they also provide services for individuals too, like title searches and other matters.

I am surprised that the other 'half' (?) of Italianlaw - Anthony Aliota - has made no comment and doesn't seem to have been in evidence here on Italy Mag.

I remember them from a (now 'extinct') Italian genealogy website. I don't know quite what happened there, but the Administration/owner just posted a message one day saying that Italian Law would no longer be the site 'legal representative.' In fact, we never saw them again!

Good point. Antonio Alioto is also not a lawyer.

Sonia living and working for many years in The Stares??? You would have thought her written English would reflect that. I know she was unnder attack but I did find her response too was very unprofessional..

I have just read this fascinating thread and I thought that ItalianLaw’s response was helpful.

I wonder what "pietropaolopaoli” and Noma’s credentials are, as this seems to be a requirement on this topic.

I, of course, am a retired test pilot (HIC VD and SCAR) in case anyone needs to know.:bigergrin:

[quote=Carole B;111021]I am surprised that the other 'half' (?) of Italianlaw - Anthony Aliota - has made no comment and doesn't seem to have been in evidence here on Italy Mag.

I remember them from a (now 'extinct') Italian genealogy website. I don't know quite what happened there, but the Administration/owner just posted a message one day saying that Italian Law would no longer be the site 'legal representative.' In fact, we never saw them again![/quote]
Their habit of answering one question on the forum, then on the follow-up telling the inquirer to email them for further info, began to wear thin. Once the inquirer emails, they ask for a retainer fee, overcharge for poor translations, and so on. The genealogy- citizenship patronage is then mined for prospective inheritance cases. Best of all the forums give them access at no charge- can't beat it!

And I am the Queen of Sheba, so trumped you Neilo:winki:
A

[quote=Noma;111038]Their habit of answering one question on the forum, then on the follow-up telling the inquirer to email them for further info, began to wear thin. Once the inquirer emails, they ask for a retainer fee, overcharge for poor translations, and so on. The genealogy- citizenship patronage is then mined for prospective inheritance cases. Best of all the forums give them access at no charge- can't beat it![/quote]

I wonder if they also conduct defamation cases ?:bigergrin:

[quote=Angie and Robert;111040]And I am the Queen of Sheba, so trumped you Neilo:winki:
A[/quote]

Hasn’t the Queen of Sheba been dead for rather a long time? At least I am only retired!:laughs:

There's certainly no reason why anyone with a positive experience with ItalianLaw should not feel free to post their experience here.

One thing for sure is that on a company website there is a legal requirement to give the full address of where it is based. Also the company registration. I don't see that information on Italianlaw .....

[quote=italianlaw;111015]Correct, but most of the succesions fillings in Italy are not done by lawyers.... if you took time to read what I wrote. Some peolple only see things in black and white, Noma.

I will let Noma answer the questions from now on. I do not need this crap. Good by folks.

Sonia Alioto[/quote]

Don't go away. Anglo Saxons have this sort of frighented frisson about "lawyers", and do not wish to understand that in Italy a capable geometra can offer a better service. But that isn't to say that somebody like you can't offer an even better service - by speaking immaculate English and responding to e-mails (not too much to ask!) Good luck to you.

Hello Sally
For the sake of transparency, our request is fair enough.

Our business name is officially: Italian Legal Language Services, LLC. Our business license is with the city of Novato, CA. just outside of San Francisco, Our phone number is on our site, For security reasons the address is not mentioned even though all if our clients (non Italian attorneys and private clients) know our address.

Our office in Italy is in Rieti.

Cordiali saluti

Sonia Alioto
[url=http://www.italianlaw.net]Welcome - Italian Law[/url]

Hello Anglo Saxton
Your perception of the way things work is on target. Thank you for your support.

Even though our office usually does the actual filing(s) of succesion documents, we frequently work with various geometra for appraisals of land and buildings as well as, at times, for joint filings. Sometimes this makes sense since the geometra is "on the ground" in the Provincia and in contact with some of the heirs in Italy. We are in contact with the heirs outside of Italy.

Cordiali saluti
Sonia Alioto
[url=http://www.italianlaw.net]Welcome - Italian Law[/url]

[COLOR="red"]For security reasons the address is not mentioned even though all if our clients (non Italian attorneys and private clients) know our address[/COLOR]

"Security" reasons??? I do find that phrase odd. Sorry Sonia, but legally you must put that information on your website. It also gives peace of mind to clients, and by so doing projects professionalism and will generate an even bigger client base. However I am not doubting your services,

Sally
Thanks for writing. I was not aware of this requirement. This is the first time I have heard it. What is your reference? If your interpretation is correct we wil post it immediately.

If someone wants our address, they will see it or may request it from the city of Novato, fromt he Secretary of State of California

We have no problems with image since we have dealth with about 300 clients over the last seven years.

Cordiali saluti
Sonia

[quote=italianlaw;111071]...........If someone wants our address, they will see it or may request it from the city of Novato, fromt he Secretary of State of California .........[/quote]

Italian Legal Language Services LLC
8 Aaron Dr.
Novato, CA 94949
Phone: 415.382.6171
Fax: 415.382.6170
Email: [email]italianlaw@comcast.net[/email]
Web site: [url=http://www.italianlaw.net]Welcome - Italian Law[/url]

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God, some of you lot make me laugh! Idiots out hunting together! And as for posting someones address - no matter what - you have no right to do it Alan - and you should remove it. And you Sally Donaldson - talk outta yer backside 365 days a year and now your some kinda expert on the english language - with your typos?

And you, Noma - well, everyone knows what you are.

[quote]We have no problems with image since we have dealth with about 300 clients over the last seven years.
[/quote]
Does this include dual citizenship and translation clients? If so, not bad, that's almost one per week.

Sheesh! I've not paid any attention to this thread since a couple of posts in, but having now caught up, I get the definite feeling that there's a lot [I]not[/I] being said and all sorts of agendas at work.

As for whether any of it is helpful to the original poster... :veryconfused:
[quote=juliancoll;111076]...And as for posting someones address - no matter what - you have no right to do it Alan...[/quote]
My €0.02:

I have problems seeing anything wrong in anyone posting a business address obtained from a public source (which I assume to be the case here), especially when that business is seeking business via this forum.

On the other hand, Google Earth shows the address given above to be a house in a residential development, rather than an obviously commercial building.

Nothing wrong with having a business based at home, of course, and, if that is the case, then that might explain what was meant by Sonia Alioto's mention of "security concerns".

However, if I had the sort of home-based business that led me to be concerned about security, I'd arrange for the registered address of the business to be someplace other than my house.

Al

[quote=juliancoll;111076] ............as for posting someones address - no matter what - you have no right to do it Alan - and you should remove it. ...............[/quote]

Sorry if it upset you, I didn't see [or intend] any harm in posting it - but its an address readily obtainable through business listing websites.

If the mods feel its wrong to post it - please remove it

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There seems to be a bit of a witch hunt going on here. If people have had problems with Italianlaw perhaps they should take them up with the proper authorities rather than on this forum.

I also think that it is unfair to the original poster, who was seeking advice, for this thread to be turned into something else.

It's the first time I've picked up on this thread for a while and it now seems to have turned into an episode of CSI!

Seeking general information on this forum and other members offering such, is one thing, but providing detailed (sometimes ill informed) advice, based on limited information is something entirely different.

As for individuals conducting their own private detective work to try and establish whether an outfit is legitimate is at best misguided and at worst potentially leading them and the forum owners into litigation. Unless you have hard facts, insinuating that an individual or a firm is not what they are purporting, really doesn't help anyone.

Furthermore, as has often been seen on this forum, as soon as suspicions have been aroused by one, every amateur detective jumps on the bandwagon, offering their "advice" or snippet of so-called evidence to make a case for the kangaroo court.

This is a great forum and has often provided me and many others with general guidance. However, the golden rule has to be that if you need very specific advice, be it legal, advice on planning regulations or whatever, accept the basic fact that professionals spend years studying for the appropriate qualifications and to obtain that advice comes at a cost.

If you want to get free advice, you can post your problem here and you'll get it in spades from all and sundry. However, trying to establish what is informed, professional or just plain hearsay is a very different matter.

If you are happy to take your chances in getting advice from a group of unknown individuals (no offence intended) that's obviously entirely a personal choice, but if any of us had a medical problem, would we seriously consider posting personal details of our ailment and then take the advice of others on how to deal with it?

Now, this pain in the ar$e you seem to have a problem with JC, tell me more......:bigergrin:

Russ

[quote=AllanMason;111082]

......on the other hand, Google Earth shows the address given above to be a house in a residential development, rather than an obviously commercial building.
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[quote=Russ;111088]...providing detailed (sometimes ill informed) advice, based on limited information...

...individuals conducting their own private detective work to try and establish whether an outfit is legitimate is at best misguided...

...every amateur detective jumps on the bandwagon, offering their "advice" or snippet of so-called evidence to make a case for the kangaroo court...

Now, this pain in the ar you seem to have a problem with JC, tell me more......:bigergrin:

Russ
[QUOTE=AllanMason;111082]...On the other hand, Google Earth shows the address given above to be a house in a residential development, rather than an obviously commercial building.[/quote][/QUOTE]
Since I've been given a citation by the forum's Quality Control cop, that's me off again.

Al

[quote=AllanMason;111082]Sheesh! I've not paid any attention to this thread since a couple of posts in, but having now caught up, I get the definite feeling that there's a lot [I]not[/I] being said and all sorts of agendas at work.

As for whether any of it is helpful to the original poster... :veryconfused:

My €0.02:

I have problems seeing anything wrong in anyone posting a business address obtained from a public source (which I assume to be the case here), especially when that business is seeking business via this forum.

On the other hand, Google Earth shows the address given above to be a house in a residential development, rather than an obviously commercial building.

Nothing wrong with having a business based at home, of course, and, if that is the case, then that might explain what was meant by Sonia Alioto's mention of "security concerns".

However, if I had the sort of home-based business that led me to be concerned about security, I'd arrange for the registered address of the business to be someplace other than my house.

Al[/quote]

Come on - you're far too clever - even with your famous diplomacy - to not see clearly whats going on here Al.

We have ItalianLaw touting for business - and so what? Sonia is also trying to help and has given answers to questions - fair exchange and allowed under forum rules. Anyone wishing to utilise the services of ItalianLaw (or any other service provider on this forum) has had umpteen warings to "do their reseach" "check things out carefully" and "buyer beware".

We then have Noma - with his caveat to point out that Italian Law are not Lawyers - and this is where I start to smell a rat because I can find no mention that Sonia has claimed to be a Lawyer anywhere in this thread or on the website. Noma ignores my request to point out where this claim is because it suits him to do so.

We then have "PietraPaoloPickledPepper" joining the forum to state his observations which of course is absolutely fair enough - but there is an undertone to the post that clearly supports Noma. I find it too much of a coincidence that someone should join this forum and dive in to support a witch hunt with their first post.

This type of thing is happening far too often on forum recently. Many know enough about forum history to perhaps agree with me that it's a massive coincidence that someone called "Alena" who claims to be "Russian", speaks perfect English, has an interest in learning Neapolitan rather than Italian and a love for having obsure Neapolitan songs translated should join the forum. Since I said I felt something was not quite right about the thread and that I was "leaving the thread alone" - "Alena" aint bin near the place.

They say you can only fool some of the people some of the time - but I believe there are some you cant fool any of the time! When this type of things happens - I'm certainly not fooled - are you?

We then have Sally - piping up more of her "do as I say" crap and you just have to laugh. Everyone knows I dislike the character Sally has created for herself here and while most are able to keep a civil tongue or step over some of the rubbish she posts - I am not able to be so calm in the face of hypocrisy.

Just read this quote

[quote=Sally Donaldson;111032]Sonia living and working for many years in The Stares??? You would have thought her written English would reflect that. I know she was unnder attack but I did find her response too was very unprofessional..[/quote]

How many spelling or typo errors are there within that small post? And yet, Ms Donaldson thinks she has some right to chastise others about their "written English" and for being "unprofessional".

[quote=Noma;111031]Good point. Antonio Alioto is also not a lawyer.[/quote]

[quote=Noma;111014]In other words, you are not a lawyer.[/quote]

[quote=Noma;111038]Their habit of answering one question on the forum, then on the follow-up telling the inquirer to email them for further info, began to wear thin. Once the inquirer emails, they ask for a retainer fee, overcharge for poor translations, and so on. The genealogy- citizenship patronage is then mined for prospective inheritance cases. Best of all the forums give them access at no charge- can't beat it![/quote]

Noma then continues to labour his point until he makes himself look like a Bounty hunter when all he is really doing is setting himself on a crusade to collect the reward.

[quote=Sally Donaldson;111047]One thing for sure is that on a company website there is a legal requirement to give the full address of where it is based. Also the company registration. I don't see that information on Italianlaw .....[/quote]

[quote=Sally Donaldson;111069]
"Security" reasons??? I do find that phrase odd. Sorry Sonia, but legally you must put that information on your website. It also gives peace of mind to clients, and by so doing projects professionalism and will generate an even bigger client base. However I am not doubting your services,[/quote]

Now Sally has elevated herself to the position of Legal expert! Not only does she advise on UK company law - she also advises on company law in the USA! Well, guess what Sal - you're wrong yet again!

There is NO legal obligation or requirement in the UK or USA to put the address of where the business is based. There is only a legal requirement to state the company's registered office address. Two completely different things!

[quote=Noma;111081]Does this include dual citizenship and translation clients? If so, not bad, that's almost one per week.[/quote]

Another dig from Noma that calls into question the validity - and ability - of ItalianLaw - for no good reason.

We then have Alanh dropping in the address - perhaps not intending any harm (I accept that - this time) but it fuels the fire. If it was so very easily available to Alanh from a bit of Googling - then I assume it's also very easily available to everyone else should they wish to search for it - so why post it?

Yours sincerely

Detective Chief Superintendant CSI Division (episode two).

Sonia, I realise your company is not a UK one. However I have found this information. I would be very surprised if it wasn't the same for American websites.

Company Website Requirements UK

On the 1st January 2007 the First Company Law Amendment Directive came into force. It makes companies legally obligated to include the following information on their website:

Company registration number
Place of registration
Registered office address
The name, postal address and email address of the website's service provider
The name of any trade bodies or professional bodies of which the company is a member
If the company is VAT registered, the VAT number must be shown even if the website is not used for e-commerce
There is also a requirement that where companies include prices on their website the prices must be clear and state whether they include or exclude tax and delivery.

Companies whose websites do not meet these requirements are liable for a fine.

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[ATTACH]2454[/ATTACH] Just enough time to Google it right eh? :laughs:

[quote=Russ;111088]If you are happy to take your chances in getting advice from a group of unknown individuals (no offence intended) that's obviously entirely a personal choice, but if any of us had a medical problem, would we seriously consider posting personal details of our ailment and then take the advice of others on how to deal with it?
Russ[/quote]
Bravo Russ!

[quote=Noma;111095]Bravo Russ![/quote]
As a group of "unknown individuals", then you obviously take your chances on the answers. You can look at the websites posted below the posts if they are there and then make your own decision, if you either want to PM or email that person for further information, or post it on the open forum. There are quite a few members who are able to answer specific questions on a "one to one" basis if required, not always asking for a fee.
I do not see any reason for the "witch hunts", just because certain individuals are not happy about a thread.

[quote=juliancoll;111094][ATTACH]2454[/ATTACH] Just enough time to Google it right eh? :laughs:[/quote]

Ooh that pain you have, is irritating you more and more. Would you like some ointment on that?:wideeyed:

Only if you promise to rub it in very, very gently. :winki: