677 Ici

This is a topic close to our hearts; last week, we approached the comune to pay our ICI for 2005 & were advised by them that we hadn't paid our ICI for 2004. This was a bit of a shocker!

We paid both the 2004 & 2005 amounts there & then, but were cautious as back in 2004 we'd been using a local agent to do this on our behalf & were unaware that it hadn't been paid. When we got home however, we found we had received a receipt from this agent showing payment of the ICI amount paid in at the local Post Office.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
- Can ICI be paid at the Post Office?
- Is it likely to be a boob at the Comune? (I'd have thought they'd have done this more than once & would be fairly slick at it!)
- If it is paid at the PO, does anything else need to be done?
- How easy is it to get a refund from the Comune if we've paid the 2004 sum twice?

I can see another trip to to sort it out (never mind, eh?!?!) but would value any comments/suggestions or avenues to look down before schelpping over again.

Thanks......

- Can ICI be paid at the Post Office?
YES ITS VERY EASY. MY POST OFFICE CHARGES 1 EURO

- Is it likely to be a boob at the Comune? (I'd have thought they'd have done this more than once & would be fairly slick at it!)
COULD BE, OR A 'MISTAKE' BY YOUR AGENT

- If it is paid at the PO, does anything else need to be done?
NO - JUST KEEP THE RECEIPT THEY GIVE YOU

- How easy is it to get a refund from the Comune if we've paid the 2004 sum twice?
GOOD LUCK - YOU'LL NEED IT

The following site is useful for working out your ICI payment

[url]http://www.ancicnc.it/ici/ici2000.asp[/url]

For my Commune - the rates for the ICI were the same as last year [you can see previous years figures on the website] - so I just copied out last years form, and paid at the Post Office.

The whole process took about 5 minutes - so beware of paying someone else to do it , unless yours is a complex situation [such as multiple occupancy/much land and buildings etc]

Of course you can get a refund from the comune, take you receipt from the post office to prove last years payment. It is easy to make simple mistakes of this type when you have around three times as many people as you need doing totally unnecessary jobs which involve several rubber stamps, mistakes also give them a reason to live, because they're helping you through a beaurocratic nightmare, a TV company could probably get a couple of weeks misery out of this... Just ask the comune, the refund will follow, probably in a couple of weeks, and, the sun will still be shining...

Goerge & Alan, thanks for these comments, they are very useful.

I am confident that as we have a 'bit of paper' and even 'a rubber stamp' that it's a simple(!) boob.

I won't keep you posted, hehehe!

Thanks again

Having just bought a small apartment in Abruzzo, of which we have paid the final sum but are awaiting final legal paperwork, do we need to pay ICI? Is it for the period of time we hav eowned the property (final payment made in May) or does it cover the whole tax year? Any help?

...not clear on this but I do know that if the value of your property has changed (ie you've been doing it up) this also needs to be taken into account.

............probably not the good simple answer you were looking for!

You may not have to pay anything, check directly with your comune, or get a definitive statement from your agent, the actual figure for the tax is pretty small, but they will fine you if you do not pay on time, it covers a full year, you can pay it in two installments if you wish, But, obviously not for this year now, errrm, go, make a friend in your local Comune, you never know, in ours, the current mayor came up and declared himself to be an Anglophile and said how much he would like to converse in English, it helps to solve probs. quickly when your translator is the Mayor LOL.

looks like we will be paying the fine

Our agent in italy was supposed to sort it - but mailed me last week to say that the commune had not got all the data and that we needed to sort it ourselves {Useful eh ???}

So as we will not be there until August - I guess we get the delieght of fine

Remember - if you own the property jointly I think that you each have to pay half the tax - Just a bit more paperwork I suppose.

[QUOTE=Forza Brescia]looks like we will be paying the fine

Our agent in italy was supposed to sort it - but mailed me last week to say that the commune had not got all the data and that we needed to sort it ourselves {Useful eh ???}

So as we will not be there until August - I guess we get the delieght of fine[/QUOTE]

I had an agent like that, the fine is quite small here, I suppose it will be around the same for you. I don't understand his problem though, I had a statement from the Geometra and a thingy for the land, any agent could have sorted these out. Give my love to Wilko's won't you... :)

[QUOTE=GeorgeS]Give my love to Wilko's won't you... :)[/QUOTE] ?????? confused

I am not really sure if we should be paying or not. Our house is not on the urban cadastrale and has no value on the rurale cadastrale extract. The land does have a domicile value though. I don't think we pay ici on land. Am I right?