Change of use of stables - planning

10/14/2015 - 04:01

Change of use of stables - planning permission?There is a small wooden stables built on a concrete base close to our house. It was built about 15-20 years ago.  We don't own it but the local farmer may be interested in selling it to us.It would be ideal to convert into a small residential unit without changing the outward appearance or enlarging the volume. However the local comune has rules that such structures, once they cease to have agricultural use, are demolished.Are there any other means of obtaining a planning pemission eg at regional level ( Siena) ?  Alternatively are there amnesties or 'condones' which can predictably be relied on?  Any other suggesstions?Thanks 

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I'd suggest you talk to a [very] local Geometra, who will know the 'ins and outs' of how your particular Comune thinks/works/applies the rules.You would be unwise to buy it without the Comune's agreement to a conversion - which may well be possible if the correct approach is made to them.Going 'over their heads', or relying on amnesties etc is fraught with risks, including upsetting the locals. If the locals are not 'on side', it only takes one phone call to the Comune to really mess things up. [This includes the farmer reporting you as he's sold a stable and you are converting it - he could well see that as a loss of profit to him] So - talk to a Geometra and then Comune [probably through the Geometra]

The last sanatoria (anesty) was in 2004.  There will not be others.  Any permission is at local comunal level, but must pass the Sovrintendenza per i beni Culturali.  Where you are it is highly doubtful you will get change of use.  Also, as a wooden structure on a concrete base, built as an agricutlurual non permanent building, you cannot change it to civile abitazione as it wont be alla norma with regard to antiseismic regulation, geological survey for foundations, genio civile for water and sewage etc etc.