I have Italian dual citizenship and am registered in AIRE

08/11/2024 - 09:14

I have Italian dual citizenship and am registered in AIRE in California, I'm an Italian passport holder and homeowner in Italy. Question:

I'd like to get an Italian driver's license and keep a car at my house in Italy,  but understand I need to be a resident where I have a house in Italy. I live most of the time in the USA(more than 180 days). I do not have a carta d'identita. Is there a way I can get a driver's license if I'm not a resident in Italy?

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If you have dual citizenship, according to Italian law you must be registered with AIRE - all AIRE members are resident in Italy, at the Italian municipality that issued the AIRE certificate
Read here >

https://www.esteri.it/it/servizi-consolari-e-visti/italiani-all-estero/…

https://www.esteri.it/it/servizi-consolari-e-visti/italiani-all-estero/…

for english , click EN , top right of the pages

 

Another question for Ugo: Something I'm confused about: I've read in several places that in order to be a "resident" in Italy you have to be present for more than 180 days. Is this only if you're not a citizen registered in AIRE? In other words in the case of someone living and registered in Italy who is not an Italian citizen you'd have to be present more than the 180 days. Do I have that right?

Buongiorno Bisaccia ,

there is a BIG difference between the Italian Citizen (even by jure sanguinis - and even if emigrated from Italy to another country, for work) - and a Citizen of another country who takes up ELECTIVE RESIDENCE in Italy - the Italian citizen has residency in Italy unconditional on whether or not he is present on the soil of the Italian Republic - guaranteed by Italian law, because he is Italian by descent or <by birth> CORRECTION , -- in Italy don't exist the <Jus Soli> , children of non-Italians  do not acquire Italian citizenship at birth in Italian republic territory - - the non-Italian citizen, who takes up Elective Residence, must demonstrate that he can support himself (= have economic subsistence) in Italy, without burdening the public finances in order to live - to my knowledge, there is no limit of presence on Italian soil, for Holders of a Residence Permit for Elective Residence - for more information about Elective Residence, click on the link below >>   https://www.italianmortgageservice.com/Inglese/italyresidenceguide.htm  - The 180 days , is  the limit for TOURIST VISA !!

yes I know, for those who have not grown up, day after day, in Italy - and sometimes even for the latter, the truly difficult thing is not learning the language, but penetrating the mentality on which the Italian bureaucracy is based -

My understanding is that an Italian citizen (including dual nationals) living outside Italy, say in the UK is RESIDENTE in the UK and DOMICILIATO in the Italian comune that is linked to their AIRE record. The place of domicile is determined by the place of last actual residence in Italy, or if never resident in Italy, then the place of the last residence of the relative that gave citizenship. So if your father emigrated from Rome to London where a son was born then the father and son are domiciled in Rome but resident in London.

Sorry Tony ,

< The place of domicile is determined by the place of last actual residence in Italy, or if never resident in Italy, then the place of the last residence of the relative that gave citizenship> 

your reasoning is right -

I would like to add a note however > the FIRST residence in Italy, in both cases, whether obtained by emigration or by jure sanguinis can also be changed by making a request to the Italian consulate of the foreign country where you reside - which forwards it to the Italian municipality where the AIRE residence is anchored - demonstrating, with appropriate documents that, over the years, your interests and real estate properties have been transferred to another municipality - it is a somewhat long bureaucratic process, but it is feasible - THIS is ALSO the only process, valid to counter the latest AIRE legislation issued, which allows the AIRE citizen to obtain tax breaks in the purchase of the first home in Italy - This new legislation limits the benefits to properties that are located in the in the municipality of birth or same Italian municipality, where the AIRE citizen's residence is rooted - follow the link with the legislation

https://www.lifeinitaly.it/Inglese/AIRE_Buy_property_in_Italy_Guideline…

scroll down go down the page, until  < NOTE FOR ITALIAN CITIZENS RESIDENT ABROAD AND AIRE SCHEDULED > 

and start reading from there -- i am sorry the the decree law that opens by clicking on the link is in Italian - which an AIRE should know anyway...