Italian dual citizenship - the advantages?Hi Everyone, my Comune informed me last year that I can only get my residency extended beyond 12 months if I apply for my children to become italian citizens as their grandfather was from a nearby village.
Buongiorno! Can anyone recommend a bi-ligual tax advisor who can help me submit a tax return / give me some general pointers on the tax system in Italy?I understand that tax under €122k is 23% here with no tax free allowance.I am recently self em
hello and thank you for your reply, I've decided to take the car back to the Uk and then hire one in the meantime.My partner lives in London for work reasons and he's already started an application with the Italian consulate there. I've had some really useful info from my landlady. it seems that the Comune are making it up as they go along. I need to get someone who is fluent in Italian to articulate the questions I want to put to the woman in the anagraffe office. I am beyond frustrated by this. For some reason the woman in the anagraffe office said the last time i visited that I have a "special case" and she wants to speak to the Comune where (my partners) Italian dad was born . He's been dead 30 years and left Italy in 1955! I have presented this woman with a copy of every document (apostilled and translated) that the Italian consulate in London has, just to humour her. I am going to see her next week as I would like answers. I think I fell at the first hurdle when I presented a healthy bank balance, a completed form which she ended up not using and I gave her our EHIC cards. At no point did she say "no, you need to buy health insurance" she just begrudgingly said she would give us a residenza temporanea.When I got a friend to call the office to ask if she'd extend it she said no, only if they boys became Italian citizens. My children start elementary school in September and we will be moving to a different province. Is it worth me just applying for residency again at a different Comune and putting my foot down if they try to bamboozle me with a load of made up nonsense again? I was a little bit overwhelmed when we first applied but now I'm realising how important the residency piece of paper is, especially as I want to buy and insure a car. Regarding the health insurance, which one would be acceptable to the Comune. Has anyone got any suggestions? I remember getting a quote from Bupa worldwide for €700 a month! But now realise that there's a policy for a few hundred euro a year one can buy at the post office. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
I totally agree it's not worth it, I have already had one of those road side checks and my car has now exceeded 6 months in Sardinia. Was the process to change the plates expensive / complicated and ... Did you have to show proof of residency? re the Health card: Theres a guy at the ASL in my local big town who is renowned for being difficult in general and won't agree to give me/ the boys a Tessera Sanitaria. What did you have to provide in order to get yours? I've provided a (now expired) residency proof, codice fiscale, passports, etc etc Thanks so much for taking the time to reply and sorry for asking more questions! I know the car issue has been discussed on this forum before but it'd be great to hear direct from someone who has changed to Italian plates. Is it done by form which is sent off or visiting an office?
Amazing! Thank you so much. I'll call them. I've been feeling quite overwhelmed and it's great to have the support of good old Italy Magazine community members. Truly thankful to all of you who've replied. Now feeling a bit better :) I am near Oristano but moving to Cagliari province for sept 2016. I don't really want Cagliari itself as I have young boys. I am enjoying village life after London and I rent from a really lovely couple but we're moving for schools. If you have any recommendations for any little villages your side of Cagliari, let me know. I need to get to Poetto every day but don't mind a short commute. Similarly if you know anyone who wants to rent their place let me know! Feel free to PM. Thanks for being such a help, very grateful!
Hello,there is a lot of info on here which I've read through and this is an extremely useful forum. But I agree, I cant imagine just by having a British car it will exempt me from the same rules that Italians are subject to. I thought Italian cars had to have a revisione?I think I'm going to sell the car and try and purchase an Italian car when my residency issues are sorted out. I have seen that after 6 months I would need to register my British car here? Again needs residency?I'm going to call the lawyer tomorrow to ask the best approach. Ahhhh yes, I agree, the Comune.... Anyway ...In some ways I think dual citizenship for the boys will cut a lot of this silly bureaucracy but apparentlymiy can take a while. I am going to the Comune next week with a fluent Italian speaker to try and get some answers :) apparently we are a "special case". I think having seen (deceased) grandads documents they consider my partner and our children to be Italian by blood. What a faff. I just want to buy a darned car and be here legitimately.
Ok that's really interesting re MOT. I'll check with my expat insurers that I'm still insured without an MOT. Thank you! I would therefore need to change to Italian plates after 6 months? Re residency, I know what it's supposed to be and my British landlady has sent me some really useful information. She's been great but it's difficult telling the Comune what should be. I think you're right and if pushed I will instruct a lawyer.
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hello and thank you for your reply, I've decided to take the car back to the Uk and then hire one in the meantime.My partner lives in London for work reasons and he's already started an application with the Italian consulate there. I've had some really useful info from my landlady. it seems that the Comune are making it up as they go along. I need to get someone who is fluent in Italian to articulate the questions I want to put to the woman in the anagraffe office. I am beyond frustrated by this. For some reason the woman in the anagraffe office said the last time i visited that I have a "special case" and she wants to speak to the Comune where (my partners) Italian dad was born . He's been dead 30 years and left Italy in 1955! I have presented this woman with a copy of every document (apostilled and translated) that the Italian consulate in London has, just to humour her. I am going to see her next week as I would like answers. I think I fell at the first hurdle when I presented a healthy bank balance, a completed form which she ended up not using and I gave her our EHIC cards. At no point did she say "no, you need to buy health insurance" she just begrudgingly said she would give us a residenza temporanea.When I got a friend to call the office to ask if she'd extend it she said no, only if they boys became Italian citizens. My children start elementary school in September and we will be moving to a different province. Is it worth me just applying for residency again at a different Comune and putting my foot down if they try to bamboozle me with a load of made up nonsense again? I was a little bit overwhelmed when we first applied but now I'm realising how important the residency piece of paper is, especially as I want to buy and insure a car. Regarding the health insurance, which one would be acceptable to the Comune. Has anyone got any suggestions? I remember getting a quote from Bupa worldwide for €700 a month! But now realise that there's a policy for a few hundred euro a year one can buy at the post office. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
hey thanks Paul :) I'll keep you updated!
I totally agree it's not worth it, I have already had one of those road side checks and my car has now exceeded 6 months in Sardinia. Was the process to change the plates expensive / complicated and ... Did you have to show proof of residency? re the Health card: Theres a guy at the ASL in my local big town who is renowned for being difficult in general and won't agree to give me/ the boys a Tessera Sanitaria. What did you have to provide in order to get yours? I've provided a (now expired) residency proof, codice fiscale, passports, etc etc Thanks so much for taking the time to reply and sorry for asking more questions! I know the car issue has been discussed on this forum before but it'd be great to hear direct from someone who has changed to Italian plates. Is it done by form which is sent off or visiting an office?
Amazing! Thank you so much. I'll call them. I've been feeling quite overwhelmed and it's great to have the support of good old Italy Magazine community members. Truly thankful to all of you who've replied. Now feeling a bit better :) I am near Oristano but moving to Cagliari province for sept 2016. I don't really want Cagliari itself as I have young boys. I am enjoying village life after London and I rent from a really lovely couple but we're moving for schools. If you have any recommendations for any little villages your side of Cagliari, let me know. I need to get to Poetto every day but don't mind a short commute. Similarly if you know anyone who wants to rent their place let me know! Feel free to PM. Thanks for being such a help, very grateful!
Hello,there is a lot of info on here which I've read through and this is an extremely useful forum. But I agree, I cant imagine just by having a British car it will exempt me from the same rules that Italians are subject to. I thought Italian cars had to have a revisione?I think I'm going to sell the car and try and purchase an Italian car when my residency issues are sorted out. I have seen that after 6 months I would need to register my British car here? Again needs residency?I'm going to call the lawyer tomorrow to ask the best approach. Ahhhh yes, I agree, the Comune.... Anyway ...In some ways I think dual citizenship for the boys will cut a lot of this silly bureaucracy but apparentlymiy can take a while. I am going to the Comune next week with a fluent Italian speaker to try and get some answers :) apparently we are a "special case". I think having seen (deceased) grandads documents they consider my partner and our children to be Italian by blood. What a faff. I just want to buy a darned car and be here legitimately.
Ok that's really interesting re MOT. I'll check with my expat insurers that I'm still insured without an MOT. Thank you! I would therefore need to change to Italian plates after 6 months? Re residency, I know what it's supposed to be and my British landlady has sent me some really useful information. She's been great but it's difficult telling the Comune what should be. I think you're right and if pushed I will instruct a lawyer.
Hi Paul, sounds great.Are you able to send me the details of the lawyer? Many thanks