Hello:In researching a move to Italy I am having a challenge in finding a long term rental (1 year or longer). I am looking in the regions: Umbria, Puglia, Abruzzo, Marche.I find many sites for "vacation" and "seasonal" but not the straightforwa
Hello:I am going to retire in two years and I would like to live the remainder of my time in the Tuscany Valley. Realizing that the USD looses converting to EURO can someone tell me or point me to stats on how much per month can a person live on?
modicasa: Thank you very much for the inforamtion. I was hoping to find a site such as immobiliare.it as it is the only site I see, so far, that has annual rentals.Thank you. Regards, Deborah
Got the message! I think that happens all over the world. A person or people will leave an area, despite whether they are leaving for life threating issues or not, go somewhere then make that place exactly like the place they left. After much study it can be coded to humans being tribal. Easily seen in the USA by areas of major cities designated as "little Italy", "Chinatown", etc. When people flooded here in late 1800's and early 1900's this is what happened. It is not a bad thing; it is hundreds of thousands of years of pre-dispositioned behavior.Of course, we can make a conscious effort to "blend"; that is, become adaptable to the environment and not the opposite. Me, I definitely will take the blend/adaptable route.Regards, D
Light12il: Thanks for the info. I think I have a good grasp on enough information regarding what I would need to live like an Italian in Italy. So far, so good. I still need to glean info regarding taxation and processes of staying there, at least for the first 5 years. Info said that at 5 years you can apply for permanent stay.Regards, D
Ugo:Point taken. Some would say it is "downsizing" but I would welcome living like an Italian in Italy. I would and will have no problem walking away from how I lived here with no regrets or issues.We in the USA are used to living in more square footage, driving a bigger gas guzzling car, shopping at stadium sized stores, eating fast foods as well as lving a lifestyle of not even bothering to get out of our cars to chow down on that big mac, fries and coke (all reasons why this country has high percentages of obesity and diabetes); I am not of the mindset that this is better because it is not!I think you guys have it right!Regards
Ugo: Thank you for taking the time to respond back with all this helpful information. This as well as gleaning information regarding social security, taxes, everything a person needs to do to stay is exactly what I need to have in order to reach the goal.It has also shed a harsh light on something else. In most of the research regarding moving to Italy it states that you must provide proof of income as to not live off the state. I find this very straightforward and I admire your country for this. I am embarrassed to be from the USA because in this country they clearly state "come on over, you don't have to be an asset to society or even legal, just come over and we'll give you free insurance, food, housing - and don't worry about the cost - 'cause the people who live and work here will pay for you!"........disgusting but true.All reasons why I can't wait to leave - also since I have heritage on both sides with all my relatives from Italy....well I guess I feel like I'd be going home.
Thank you Light12il. Yes, I am familiar with Umbria and will seriously consider that location as well.Question: is 1500E = 1,500 euros and is this per month? Regards, Deborah
Thank you Light12il. Yes, I am familiar with Umbria and will seriously consider that location as well.Question: is 1500E = 1,500 euros and is this per month?
Thank you. Looks like it just might be a go! Got two years to learn the language (via Rosetta Stone) and try to find relatives of great grandparents from Collabassa, Liguria....
Hello;Thanks much for such a quick response.I would say middle of the road (middle class?). A 1-2 bedroom preferrably villa in a more rural area (anywhere in Tuscany) but would consider apartment. I would most likely not have a car - perhaps I could get a scooter. So average expenses for a 1 person, food, utilities, etc. considered middle class.Since I live in the USA it's hard to do an apples-to-apples situation. I'm most likely considered middle-class.Regards, Deborah
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modicasa: Thank you very much for the inforamtion. I was hoping to find a site such as immobiliare.it as it is the only site I see, so far, that has annual rentals.Thank you. Regards, Deborah
Got the message! I think that happens all over the world. A person or people will leave an area, despite whether they are leaving for life threating issues or not, go somewhere then make that place exactly like the place they left. After much study it can be coded to humans being tribal. Easily seen in the USA by areas of major cities designated as "little Italy", "Chinatown", etc. When people flooded here in late 1800's and early 1900's this is what happened. It is not a bad thing; it is hundreds of thousands of years of pre-dispositioned behavior.Of course, we can make a conscious effort to "blend"; that is, become adaptable to the environment and not the opposite. Me, I definitely will take the blend/adaptable route.Regards, D
Light12il: Thanks for the info. I think I have a good grasp on enough information regarding what I would need to live like an Italian in Italy. So far, so good. I still need to glean info regarding taxation and processes of staying there, at least for the first 5 years. Info said that at 5 years you can apply for permanent stay.Regards, D
Ugo:Point taken. Some would say it is "downsizing" but I would welcome living like an Italian in Italy. I would and will have no problem walking away from how I lived here with no regrets or issues.We in the USA are used to living in more square footage, driving a bigger gas guzzling car, shopping at stadium sized stores, eating fast foods as well as lving a lifestyle of not even bothering to get out of our cars to chow down on that big mac, fries and coke (all reasons why this country has high percentages of obesity and diabetes); I am not of the mindset that this is better because it is not!I think you guys have it right!Regards
Thank you for taking the time to comment on my post. All helpful information.
Ugo: Thank you for taking the time to respond back with all this helpful information. This as well as gleaning information regarding social security, taxes, everything a person needs to do to stay is exactly what I need to have in order to reach the goal.It has also shed a harsh light on something else. In most of the research regarding moving to Italy it states that you must provide proof of income as to not live off the state. I find this very straightforward and I admire your country for this. I am embarrassed to be from the USA because in this country they clearly state "come on over, you don't have to be an asset to society or even legal, just come over and we'll give you free insurance, food, housing - and don't worry about the cost - 'cause the people who live and work here will pay for you!"........disgusting but true.All reasons why I can't wait to leave - also since I have heritage on both sides with all my relatives from Italy....well I guess I feel like I'd be going home.
Thank you Light12il. Yes, I am familiar with Umbria and will seriously consider that location as well.Question: is 1500E = 1,500 euros and is this per month? Regards, Deborah
Thank you Light12il. Yes, I am familiar with Umbria and will seriously consider that location as well.Question: is 1500E = 1,500 euros and is this per month?
Thank you. Looks like it just might be a go! Got two years to learn the language (via Rosetta Stone) and try to find relatives of great grandparents from Collabassa, Liguria....
Hello;Thanks much for such a quick response.I would say middle of the road (middle class?). A 1-2 bedroom preferrably villa in a more rural area (anywhere in Tuscany) but would consider apartment. I would most likely not have a car - perhaps I could get a scooter. So average expenses for a 1 person, food, utilities, etc. considered middle class.Since I live in the USA it's hard to do an apples-to-apples situation. I'm most likely considered middle-class.Regards, Deborah