8529 ENEL non-resident

The latest bill was received on Saturday 5 Jan (to be paid by 29 Dec!)

On it there is a recalculation from early May (the date we moved in) to 7 Oct, resulting in an extra amount of 83 euro to be paid. This apparently is a non-resident extra tariff, which seems to work out at 16 euro per month.

As for residency, this was sorted out at the local comune in July, and a certificate issued to us. When ENEL asked for evidence, this was posted to them in Nov. However we cannot understand why the non-resident charge applies up to 7 Oct, which coincidentally is the date of the previous electricity bill. I suspect theyve lost what we posted.

Another thing about ENEL and residenza. Does it mean resident at the local comune or resident in Italy?

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Cost of living - Utility Services

Residence means your prima casa. You are only allowed one for the whole country.

It took ENEL a good 6 months to sort out our residents discount, after that we had 3 free bill paying periods, so they got there in the end. I would resend documentation of your residency. And hopefully wait for a nice surprise when they finally figure it out.
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redimp - have you got more than 3kW? If so, there is no such thing as a resident tariff.

Charles, for those of us still to hook up to services and pay the massive bills could you please just expand on the 3kw supply? Did you mean to say that there is only one level of supply where non-residents do pay more and that's under 3kw?

Over 3kws is charged the same to all?

And while on the subject I am expecting to pay around 500 euros to get enel to turn on the supply once we get rewired.Is that right?Approx?

Yet another question! Walking across our neighbour's land I spotted a cable, looking to be the main electricity one from the town up our road to the other houses, as well as ours, resting in the branches of his olives!!!!!Surely this is not legal???It appears to be drapped throw 3 or 4 trees!!!Should I tell enel about it?

I paid 105 Euros to have a meter installed and serviced turned on. That includes taxes. They didn't have to running any wires. I don't remember if the meter was already here or not but I think it's on the bill.

[quote=NickZ;80025]I paid 105 Euros to have a meter installed and serviced turned on. That includes taxes. They didn't have to running any wires. I don't remember if the meter was already here or not but I think it's on the bill.[/quote]
Enel website has got even more confusing with its tariffs. I have 3Phase 15Kw but trying to work out their rate has now got even more difficult. It cost me about 0.16 cents per Kw from Sept-Oct, but it changes as they never notify you if the energy price has increased. Will try and get a better breakdown when this months bill comes in as regards to all tariffs, as at least it may be easier to work out.

I recently checked the tarrifs on their website. It seems they have ceased some and transferred across to others. The basic non-resident 3Kw account is now charged at a flat rate. Its worth us all looking at this closely. There now appears to be no surcharge for the higher Kw accounts, they all appear to be the same - non-resident that is.

hi cassini

wonder if you can help.we have just bought a large old house in abruzzo.short term,we need a shower,like the good ole english electric ones.
the power must be available ,as there are large electric cables running into the house that used to power industrial ovens.
people have said to me tho that you should just connect low watt electric as high watt is to expensive
any comments?

simon

It all seems outrageously expensive to me. You really don't want to even think about those electric shower units . . ..

[quote=lushsandwich;81843]...people have said to me tho that you should just connect low watt electric as high watt is to expensive[/quote]
"Too expensive" is always relative, isn't it?

I think it's generally accepted that the main difference between Italy and the UK in terms of energy costs is that there's not so much difference between the different forms in Italy. In other words, while using electricity to heat a house or produce domestic hot water in the UK would cost much more than using mains gas to do the job, that difference doesn't exist in Italy: in terms of actual usable energy (certain volume of water heated to a certain temperature or whatever) mains gas or electricity will cost you roughly the same. Using bottled gas will cost significantly more.

Geotherm quotes an electricity cost of €0.16 per kWh. That's roughly what I'm paying as well for my 6 kW supply. Do the exchage rate conversion, check your electricity bill in the UK, see how that compares to what you're paying now and decide for yourself if it's "expensive".

If you opt for an electricity supply limited to 3 kW, you will get a price break of some sort (assuming - as discussed above - ENEL is convinced you deserve it). I have no idea how much that might be, but I am sure you won't be able to run an electric shower on that supply. Regardless of how heavy the cables coming in to your property are, your meter will trip whenever your total household demand is more than 3 kW and the electric showers I've seen draw more than 8kW on their own.

Assuming you're able to get ENEL to provide you with a power supply that can cope with that sort of demand, only you can decide if the enjoyment you get from a high-pressure high-temperature shower means the cost of it is not "too expensive".

If you're thinking of bringing over an electric shower from the UK, something else you should consider is that domestic water pressure here is normally much higher than what one sees in the UK.

Al