In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
It is also a different price in each different comune so comparing one house to another is difficult.
local taxes for renovation
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 08/22/2008 - 04:46In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[I]....We are slowly plodding through getting all the planning permissions granted and are at (hopefully) the last one.....[/I]
Your surveyor should gave explained this but most of them don't know the laws or don't want to deal against the town hall...it's true that this is different from one town to another...and it shouldn't be, but there is law which says that you don't have to pay any "oneri comunali" in case of restoration ("restauro conservativo" which means repairing the house without modifying the floors levels,the openings,the total roof(not a few beams) and the total hight of the house) while you have to pay in case of "ristrutturazione".
it's of course a trick which many surveyors know and are able to apply during the planning permission's operations,it has to be done in the right way, the technical offices in the town halls know this as well,that's why they normally ask to pay only on the ground floor surface.....instead of the total surface of the house.it's difficult to deal with the technical offices because they need money and they will try to deny the permission if you don't pay....but there is a law and if you have a good surveyor...you will win!
in some case our tawn hall had to reimbourse my customers because they paid to much, so to avoid problems better to pay and get the permission...than ask the money back,but once they have given the permission for "restauro conservativo" and the main works have been completed!
good luck
andrea
[url=http://www.marche-project-management.com]Marche Project Management[/url]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Thank you for clarifying this.
I'd like to warn people to always question geometras regarding these issues as they are not always up to date with current legislation.For example the 10% iva that applies on work to restore older properties.This has been in effect for over 1 year now but its surprising how many professionals seem unaware of it!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=myabruzzohome;95322]Thank you for clarifying this.
I'd like to warn people to always question geometras regarding these issues as they are not always up to date with current legislation.For example the 10% iva that applies on work to restore older properties.This has been in effect for over 1 year now but its surprising how many professionals seem unaware of it![/quote]
Small note: i was applying the iva at 10% to my customers since the year 2000.....than: fi the buyer become resident where he bought the house within 18 months...he will pay only 4% on the purchase....saving a lot of money!and so on....there are so many things that a good surveyor should tell...
andrea
[url=http://www.marche-project-management.com]Marche Project Management[/url]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
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In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
And keep in mind that the purchase taxes apply on the "valore cadastrale" of the property, which is usually much lower than the selling price. Depending on the particular cases it may not be that convenient to change place of residence for the purpose of saving a bit of money only. People should be looking at the total picture and making comparisons.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Torchiarolan;95353]I think it is 10% tax when buying a house, but only 3% if you are, or become resident within the 18mth limit.
On building work generally the IVA is 20%
[B]If restoring a house for prima casa[/B] it is 10% but your geometra must produce relevant papers for the builder/supplier to be able to charge only 10% on the invoices,
[B]If it is a new build prima casa[/B] then the IVA is only 4%, again, relevant paperwork must be submitted from the geometra to the invoicer.
In both cases it is necessary to have appropriate planning permissions etc.
This also applies to materials, all our bathroom fixtures/fittings etc we purchased ourselves for 3 bathrooms were invoiced at 10% when delivered to the house for our plumber to install.[/quote]
just a small note : For residents within 18 months tax is[U] 4%[/U],iva on building works is [U]10%[/U] if you apply for restoration(restauro conservativo) and not renovation(ristrutturazione).
Papers from the surveyor are not so relevant:just the copy of the planning permission and declaration for the iva reduction.
Attention: iva at 10 % if the invoice says material and work,or material put in place...otherwise it's 20% again.
andrea
[url=http://www.marche-project-management.com]Marche Project Management[/url]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
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In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Torchiarolan;95362]4% on the [U]purchase[/U] ??
Our geometra actually got the planning permission etc, so being more fluent in Italian than us, he organised the disbursment of the necessary permissions etc to the relevant builders and re-builders.
have to check up how we stand re bathroom purchases after reading your point re material purchase, as we dont want to be landed with surprise IVA bills late,[/quote]
yes the registry tax on the purchase will be reduced to 4% if you become resident in the area within 18 months and it's the first house
andrea
[url=http://www.marche-project-management.com]Marche Project Management[/url]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
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From what you say, it might be a tax that you pay for "change of destination of use". The tax is levied on the cubic metre of the area, rather than the square metre of the area you're charging. Does the room you're converting need to be labelled as domestic space, or can you just make the conversion but not change the destination?