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Puglia Posse?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 01/24/2006 - 16:00In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=Technically Blonde]Calling all Puglia lovers - have your say on the location of the [URL="http://www.puglia-posse.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=57"]sponsored Puglia summer party[/URL].[/QUOTE]
What started out as a like minded group of people living or buying in the same area of Italy - maybe wanting to meet up and/or swap ideas and experiences - has now to my mind, been hi-jacked and is degenerating into a commercial exercise.
The private parties organised for the summer are genuine and fine and I'll be there. I really draw the line however at a 'sponsored' summer party for business purposes.
Now I know that I don't have to attend this sponsored party if I don't want to. So please anyone who disagrees with my post, don't counter post pointing out this fact. I'm well aware thanks.
However, Technically Blonde and Justin of Inter Italia. You should both be ashamed. You're using this forum and the 'Puglia Posse' Forum as a potential business development site to promote your own interests.
Well, I've come out of retirement (so to speak) to reply only because I'm so angry ... basta, basta, basta!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
It's very brave of you to speak your mind Sue.
You have now opened the door for others who may have the same point of view as you, to come forward and comment as well.
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[QUOTE=Susan P]What started out as a like minded group of people living or buying in the same area of Italy - maybe wanting to meet up and/or swap ideas and experiences - has now to my mind, been hi-jacked and is degenerating into a commercial exercise.
The private parties organised for the summer are genuine and fine and I'll be there. I really draw the line however at a 'sponsored' summer party for business purposes.
Now I know that I don't have to attend this sponsored party if I don't want to. So please anyone who disagrees with my post, don't counter post pointing out this fact. I'm well aware thanks.
However, Technically Blonde and Justin of Inter Italia. You should both be ashamed. You're using this forum and the 'Puglia Posse' Forum as a potential business development site to promote your own interests.
Well, I've come out of retirement (so to speak) to reply only because I'm so angry ... basta, basta, basta![/QUOTE]
Whilst I respect your opinions, you have some basic facts wrong.
Technically Blonde is not using anything as a [I]"potential business development site to promote your own interests"[/I]
The Puglia Posse forum is entirely not-for-profit. 100% of profits go back to the members.
I negotiated with Inter Italia to display an advertising banner, in much a similar way that the ItalyMag forum displays banners. The difference is that ItalyMag is run as a business and Puglia Posse is not. As such we had to decide what to do with the advertising revenue. Therefore we decided to give the money back to the members by paying for a party. Now how on earth is that a "potential business development" or "promoting our own interests".
Justin from Inter Italia has also done nothing wrong. He has merely made an advertising arrangement, the same as ANY property agent would do. WE (at the Puglia Posse) decided to channel that into the FREE party for members. There is no affiliation between the Puglia Posse, or Inter Italia, and no conflict of interests.
Now this is not very interesting, or appropriate reading on these boards, so if anyone has further questions please PM me or Technically Blonde and we can exchange email addresses and continue this in a more appropriate fashion.
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[quote=Ric]Now this is not very interesting, or appropriate reading on these boards, so if anyone has further questions please PM me or Technically Blonde and we can exchange email addresses and continue this in a more appropriate fashion.[/quote]
That's a bit rich considering you both started it by posting the 'Puglia Party' invitations [as long as you subscribe to the other forum]. I'd be a bit peed off if I was on the Italy mag staff.
You don't consider it a business arrangement, but I'll bet Inter Italia do!
Red Triangle
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/25/2006 - 04:19In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Do I get to use the red triangle again?
Dave
I get invited to lots of sponsored parties, and I've always won a great prize guaranteed!! :D
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Of course InterItalia think of it a business arrangement, they are paying for advertising and that is what they are getting. Anyone else with Puglia based business interests is entitled/invited to pay for advertising.
The Puglia forums were started at the request of several Puglia residents as a forum to air their recommendations about Puglia life, share there local experiences etc. Are you really interested in restaurant recommendations in Puglia if you don't live or visit there, etc.
To re-iterate Ric's early post, Puglia-Posse is non profit making with all revenues being channelled back into providing benefits for the registered members. In fact Ric has paid the setup expenses personally and we have both spent considerable time getting the forum started.
The sponsored party is just an example of how we can generate revenue and funnel it back to the registered users for their benefit / entertainment.
It's inevitable whenever anybody starts anything new there is a certain amount of bad-mouthing ... everybody has choices. We will continue with the Puglia forum as long as the Puglia residents / home-owners want us to. As Susan said, nobody has to attend any of the parties or events - it's a free world.
Enjoy
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[QUOTE=Aliena]Yeah.. but you still nicked the name!!
There may be trouble ahead.. la lala la la..
I'm off to make some Minestrone.. must remember to stir the pot! ;)
:) :)[/QUOTE]
No trouble for me. I shall continue enjoying all the forums, and once my ADSL line is in, stand by my offers to help Christina with an ASP application for her forum and to work with Tuscan Hills to create an Italy wide online bookclub. All of this is fun for me and stops my brain from going to mush in my early retirement!
Enjoy your minestrone
(and let me know if you ever come to Puglia!)
Whats in a name
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/25/2006 - 04:45In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
It wasn't a name to nick - it was a [B]thread title[/B]
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[QUOTE=derekL]I'd be a bit peed off if I was on the Italy mag staff.
[/QUOTE]
I take it you haven't read Ronald's comments in the other thread. Yes, I agree it is stepping on ItalyMag's toes a bit, and their moderation team should delete all reference to our party and forums if they feel concerned, or if it contravenes their rules. I wouldn't have a problem with that at all.
[QUOTE=YNot]Do I get to use the red triangle again?[/QUOTE]
Go ahead. You didn't get what you were after last time. You might as well try again.
[QUOTE=Aliena]Yeah.. but you still nicked the name!!
There may be trouble ahead.. la lala la la..
I'm off to make some Minestrone.. must remember to stir the pot! ;)
:) :)[/QUOTE]
Yes Aliena, you made that comment earlier in the thread and it didn't get a response, so now you've made it again. You want a response? Okay you get a response. Personally I find that members like you are everything that is wrong with a forum community. You make posts just for the sake of it and you post deliberately inflammatory comments to see if you can cause trouble. A recent example is seen in the [url=http://www.italymag.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=2348]law 194[/url] thread. Most of your posts are drivel and you seem to be in race just to increase your post count and wind people up. You seem to be the Italy Mag forum [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll]troll[/url]. You see it as a bit of fun, I don't.
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[QUOTE=Ric]I take it you haven't read Ronald's comments in the other thread. Yes, I agree it is stepping on ItalyMag's toes a bit, and their moderation team should delete all reference to our party and forums if they feel concerned, or if it contravenes their rules. I wouldn't have a problem with that at all.
Go ahead. You didn't get what you were after last time. You might as well try again.
Yes Aliena, you made that comment earlier in the thread and it didn't get a response, so now you've made it again. You want a response? Okay you get a response. Personally I find that members like you are everything that is wrong with a forum community. You make posts just for the sake of it and you post deliberately inflammatory comments to see if you can cause trouble. A recent example is seen in the [url=http://www.italymag.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=2348]law 194[/url] thread. Most of your posts are drivel and you seem to be in race just to increase your post count and wind people up. You seem to be the Italy Mag forum [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll]troll[/url]. You see it as a bit of fun, I don't.[/QUOTE]
Oo er missus... does every thread morph into "The Bitching Thread"?
You leave our chic alone, or Rob and me (when he recovers from his wrestling injuries) will come to your bloody party and sort you out....
...where is this bloody Puglia place, anyway?
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Technically Blonde]
It's inevitable whenever anybody starts anything new there is a certain amount of bad-mouthing ... everybody has choices.[/quote]
I'm not bad-mouthing. I just think it's a bit of a cheek using this forum to gather members for another forum. As a an IT savvy person, you should know that this is not an acceptable thing to do.
I feel sorry for Italy Mag and, particularly Ronald, who probably feel they now need to create regional sub-forums to stop people drifting away and creating their own.
Derek
Handbags!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/25/2006 - 06:40In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
As opinion is accepted, I'll offer mine. I like Aliena's drivel, I find it entertaining and it makes me laugh, no not always but most of the time. Take things more with a pinch of salt, I'd say. I also like this forum for it's more serious note, offering advice and information where it's needed and appropriate. A mixture of the two is a healthy combination.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
... sometimes its good to hold back... i know if i had been the first to express an opinion it would have been put down to that anti puglia idiot again.... and i think it shows that all that are part of the puglia posse are not prepared to let the italy mag forum be used by people with only commercial interests to carry on a far from helpful attack on the place....
i think it basically started with alex and lyn promoting the holiday let site... most probably innocently ...but its obvious that the relationship between posses...holiday lets and a so called property site are there for only one reason.... and it seems to me that posse people are just taking advantage of a forum set up by italy mag...in an entirely different vane ... ie a forum of general interest in italy with no hidden agendas...
the property site is a disgrace to all the principles expounded here about abusive practices....
almost a quote...pay 170 or thereabout euro and we will give you free everything with no pressure for a sale .... how can it be free if you have to pay up front...
never use an expensive uk based lawyer... they are no good and will rip you off...we have our own that are cheaper and better... cost 2 % of house price....
finally this is a british company...so how can it operate here..... with no inscription in the chamber of commerce...removing the link to the company...has not really removed it ...its splashed all over the pages of a forum that claims to be for discussing puglia... i bet if i posted something like this on it ... it might well get deleted and me banned....
rob.... you seem to be compiling a sites.... with bad advice ... try going to the home page of that one ... it makes pretty astounding reading ...
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[QUOTE=Macy]As opinion is accepted, I'll offer mine. I like Aliena's drivel, I find it entertaining and it makes me laugh, no not always but most of the time. Take things more with a pinch of salt, I'd say. I also like this forum for it's more serious note, offering advice and information where it's needed and appropriate. A mixture of the two is a healthy combination.[/QUOTE]
ditto...
have seen what happens when a forum starts to seperate or be used as
a stepping stone to other forums...... no one wins,everyone looses.....
my personel view is this forum does not need sub forums of regions, nor
links to other forums......
and now a bit of advertising...... you wanna live just 5 minutes from puglia?
very cheaply priced places for sale, from me.......have your very own 2
bed apartment, just 20,000 euros!
just check out my website. at [url]www.sendme20,000euros.cond,u.it[/url].
Puglia Posse
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/25/2006 - 07:18In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
To me the whole point of the new Puglia Posse forum, was for all those luckily enough to own, or thinking of owning a property in Puglia, to be able to swap information, eg, best places to eat in San Vito, safest beach for children, taxi numbers, places to buy furniture etc away from the Italymag forum and without getting up Johns nose and making his skin itch, which the mention of Puglia does :eek: . As Ric has pointed out, the site is non profit, so any advertising profit made, Ric and Debbie are trying go get it back to its members in some way or other and what a more perfect way than free nosh and booze (god bet your all jealous really :rolleyes: ). I personally don't mind the advertising , providing the party doesn't descend into a marketing ploy with business cards, flyer's and banners. I may even advertise myself if and when I can move there permanent, so Ric, keep up the good work;) . Just because there is now an alternative forum doesn't mean we shall all abscond never to return.......
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giovanni ... im not as clever as aliena... i think ive overpayed you.... but i think you have provided a very wise perspective....
i too seem to like drivel... and can honestley say i have been known to partake of it.... long live drivel
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[QUOTE=paula hampson]To me the whole point of the new Puglia Posse forum, was for all those luckily enough to own, or thinking of owning a property in Puglia, to be able to swap information, eg, best places to eat in San Vito, safest beach for children, taxi numbers, places to buy furniture etc away from the Italymag forum and without getting up Johns nose and making his skin itch, which the mention of Puglia does :eek: . As Ric has pointed out, the site is non profit, so any advertising profit made, Ric and Debbie are trying go get it back to its members in some way or other and what a more perfect way than free nosh and booze (god bet your all jealous really :rolleyes: ). I personally don't mind the advertising , providing the party doesn't descend into a marketing ploy with business cards, flyer's and banners. I may even advertise myself if and when I can move there permanent, so Ric, keep up the good work;) . Just because there is now an alternative forum doesn't mean we shall all abscond never to return.......[/QUOTE]
the whole piont of this forum, is exactly the same,as you state,or do you
want to keep this info away from all other italian lovers.
i like to travel around italy, thats why i am on here and i want to know
where to go where to eat and stay.
why should this forum be diluted?why would some want a forum solely on
their region?its all one country.
is this some sort of one upmanship?i hope not,because it does sound alittle
like it.
what next.. tea at 4pm, diner at 8 ,talk about the natives?
i find it very strange when people use words like culture and way of life, to
descibe a country,then want to set up a forum solely for a small group,
living solely in one region.
Puglia
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/25/2006 - 08:08In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Why is the forum diluted, has anybody left, have all the 40 odd Puglian lovers disappeared elsewhere, we're still here, as I see it the Puglia forum is just running parallel with this one, I just log in to both. We'll still share the same info just in the same way as we did before, and still make John twitch and blink at the mention of the region :eek: ;)
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[quote=adriatica]the property site is a disgrace to all the principles expounded here about abusive practices....
almost a quote...pay 170 or thereabout euro and we will give you free everything with no pressure for a sale .... how can it be free if you have to pay up front...
never use an expensive uk based lawyer... they are no good and will rip you off...we have our own that are cheaper and better... cost 2 % of house price....
finally this is a british company...so how can it operate here..... with no inscription in the chamber of commerce
rob.... you seem to be compiling a sites.... with bad advice ... try going to the home page of that one ... it makes pretty astounding reading ...[/quote]
I'm with you on this one John!
Asking you to pay £179 and then claiming everything you get for your money is free:eek:
And they don't charge the buyer anything! (presumably the seller stumps up the whole 6% as I can't imagine it's that the price has just been bumped up to cover the commission:rolleyes: )
And the stuff about UK based lawyers is laughable. We had a UK based lawyer who did a fantastic job (with no pressure) for less than 1.5% of the house price.
Just a couple of questions to those who operate the site: Is their lawyers fee 2% of the house price or 2% +IVA of the house price? And why do you suggest that at the signing of the rogito there should be the lawyer, the 'agents' and a translator? Who is paying for all these people to be there and if you need a translator does this mean your staff are not as multilingual as you claim?
John is right - this is a job for Rob and the agency police:)
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[QUOTE=brendangfc]Asking you to pay £179 and then claiming everything you get for your money is free:eek: [/QUOTE]
You seem to be mistaken. The £179 is for a 3 day viewing trip including flights, 4* hotel and food. If you arrange your own flights and accommodation then you view the properties for free just like any other agent.
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[quote=Ric]You seem to be mistaken. The £179 is for a 3 day viewing trip including flights, 4* hotel and food. If you arrange your own flights and accommodation then you view the properties for free just like any other agent.[/quote]
Okay, I'll quote directly from your website:
[B]Viewing Trip Includes:[/B]
[B][IMG]http://www.interitalia.biz/immagini/arrowblutrans.gif[/IMG][/B]Return Flights
[IMG]http://www.interitalia.biz/immagini/arrowblutrans.gif[/IMG]Free Quality 4 star Hotel Accommodation
[IMG]http://www.interitalia.biz/immagini/arrowblutrans.gif[/IMG]Free Breakfast, Lunch Snack whilst viewing, and Evening Meals.
How are these things free when you have paid £179 for them?
And the answers to my other questions?
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Rather more serious, look at the registered address at the bottom of each page. The first part is obscure to say the least. The second part, the town, I can categorically state does not exist.
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[QUOTE=brendangfc]Okay, I'll quote directly from [B]your[/B] website:[/QUOTE]
I am not involved with the company in any way.
I'll leave you to enjoy your untrue conspiracy theories.
** edited 4/7/2006 - not so anymore **
Aw come on, put a sock in it
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/25/2006 - 09:18In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I thought the Bitching Thread with this way..............;)
Troll
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/25/2006 - 10:37In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Aliena
I'll bring the Wine Gums :D
[IMG]http://www.ukpost.org.uk/uploadedImages/news/troll_2.jpg[/IMG]
Sorry blatant advertising again.
Dave
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in my humble opinion the correct way to do this would have been to ask ronald before posting this information so that he could have considered the content and implications in detail before it became public .by posting first without the sponsorship being clear i believe that you have put him in an awkward position.
Ronald
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/25/2006 - 15:29In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In my opinion if Ronald wasn't happy then the thread would have been wiped off the face of the earth, a bit like Dave and a few other threads that have gone missing lately :rolleyes: . Ronald has actually said it was ok and lets face it nobody has actually deflected;) .
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[quote=Ric]I am not involved with the company in any way, other than being a fully satisfied customer.
I'll leave you to enjoy your untrue conspiracy theories.[/quote]
Conspiracy theories? I thought I'd just asked some perfectly reasonable questions. I still maintain that it is at least ironic to promote as free something you have paid for.
As regards my other questions, although an answer from someone who is involved in the company would obviously be preferable, as a fully satisfied customer you would be in a position should you choose to answer them:
Did you, as a customer, have to pay the company or any agent a fee or commission?
Did you, as a customer, pay the lawyer 2% or 2%+IVA?
Did you have the lawyer, the 'agent' and a translator at the notary's office? And if so why did you need all three?
It is of course up to you whether you choose to reply (either via this thread or by PM).
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[quote=derekL]Rather more serious, look at the registered address at the bottom of each page. The first part is obscure to say the least. The second part, the town, I can categorically state does not exist.[/quote]
To be fair Derek couldn't it just be a typographic error (Leixlip) - of course it still begs the question why an Italian 'based' firm should have a registered address in Ireland (or has Dave - Italian Choice already answered that one in another thread?)
This is getting boring
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 01/26/2006 - 05:23In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
and this will really be my last word on this topic
as a satisfied customer with InterItalia I couldn't give a toss where their registered office is. I contacted them via the internet because they had properties that I was interested in and subsequently bought two. Service has been first class from start to finish (and service has not finished but is ongoing even though our purchases were completed at end of September).
£179 for flights with everything else thrown in "free". If you can put your own three day package with flights and hotels food etc together for £179, good on you go for it. Doesn't really matter how the £179 is spread, you're still getting a good deal IMHO.
Now I think I will emigrate to Australia ...... (not really, love Puglia ---uuuh oooh the P word --- too much)
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[quote=brendangfc]To be fair Derek couldn't it just be a typographic error (Leixlip) - of course it still begs the question why an Italian 'based' firm should have a registered address in Ireland (or has Dave - Italian Choice already answered that one in another thread?)[/quote]
Could be an error.... or not. Doesn't, however, explain the first part - 'House' :confused:
As for Dave's posts, thats exactly what I was thinking.
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[quote=Technically Blonde]as a satisfied customer with InterItalia I couldn't give a toss where their registered office is..... [/quote]
Looks like you and Ric were (are) completely satisfied with their service. Great. However, how would you feel if, after recommending their services to someone, things went horribly wrong and their registered address turned out to be non-existent? Couldn't give a toss perhaps?
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as far as i can work out from rics posting with no fee and no other costs interitalia obviously work for absolutely nothing so i think i can safely say that this company and justin is it most probably offer the best and cheapest opportunity to buy a house in italy for sure and most probably at their rates the world... i would suggest anyone buying in puglia make good use of them ... before they actually realise that they need to make some money to pay for parties....
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[quote=Ric]- I didn't have to pay any agent's fee or commission at all.
- I paid lawyer 2% of purchase price
- Yes all three at office, and I don't know why I needed a separate translator, however I don't have a problem with this.
I have to say that the whole process was made understandable and stress-free. From someone who had no pre-knowledge of the system, and no time to organise things myself, everything was done for me. Without naming names, I also contacted 3 other agencies and viewed properties with 2 other companies. I heard and saw what the other companies offered, made my choice, and was completely satisfied. The pre and after sales service with Inter Italia was a big selling factor, as we simply don't have the time to be out in Italy and supervise works/deliveries etc. They have come to tile/bathroom shops, arranged electricity change over, house insurance etc with us, as well as translated, helped etc. Plus they will organise delivery of your orders, send back photos of progress on works etc. All this, for no fee - as it is part of their after sales service.
So, in summary, yes I am satisfied and yes, I feel I chose the right company to deal with.[/quote]
Thanks for that, Ric - it's all I was asking for. On the basis of your reply I would say that they should be doing all they can to promote themselves whether through Puglia parties or not. After all where else are UK buyers going to get a totally free buying service and totally free project management with fully satisfied customers endorsement. On top of this they obviously have fantastic negotiators (convincing sellers to stump up 6% rather than 3%) or are working on much smaller margins than anyone else. Good on 'em I say. Just get them to drop the rather amateurish 'free' tag on their viewing trip promo, take off the rather scaremongering stuff about UK based lawyers, add endorsements from satisfied customers like yourselves and Technically Blonde and provide stuff like Chamber membership, FIAIP or similar membership and the owners qualifications and I reckon they will have cracked it (this marketing advice is free, obviously).
Just out of interest where in Puglia are they based as it doesn't say on their website (another marketing error I would humbly suggest).
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[QUOTE=derekL]Looks like you and Ric were (are) completely satisfied with their service. Great. However, how would you feel if, after recommending their services to someone, things went horribly wrong and their registered address turned out to be non-existent? Couldn't give a toss perhaps?[/QUOTE]
I don't directly recommend anyone. All I would ever do is recount the experiences that I have had with the 4 agencies I was in touch with, and then it is up to individuals to do their own research. I asked Inter Italia for references before I made the purchase, and they provided me with a long list.
As it happens I had a non-productive exchange with another agent who many people on these boards speak very highly of. I had a terrible encounter with a third company, and the fourth were fine but didn't offer the services I required.
So I did some homework before handing over my money, and I would expect others to do the same.
Italymag
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 01/26/2006 - 08:30In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
If you have copy of this months (Feb) Italy mag there is a full page add on the back cover. :)
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[QUOTE=brendangfc]Just out of interest where in Puglia are they based as it doesn't say on their website (another marketing error I would humbly suggest).[/QUOTE]
[url=http://italymag.co.uk/classifieds/italy_classifieds/Property_in_Italy/Estate_Agents_and_Property_Consultants_in_Italy/Inter_Italia_-_Puglia_Property_Consultants.html]Italy Mag classifieds[/url] - although viewing info out of date after Ryan Air schedule changes.
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[quote=Ric]So I did some homework before handing over my money, and I would expect others to do the same.[/quote]
Sorry Ric, handing over what money? I was under the impression from your previous answer to my query that you hadn't paid them any money:confused:
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[QUOTE=adriatica]as far as i can work out from rics posting with no fee and no other costs interitalia obviously work for absolutely nothing so i think i can safely say that this company and justin is it most probably offer the best and cheapest opportunity to buy a house in italy for sure and most probably at their rates the world... i would suggest anyone buying in puglia make good use of them ... before they actually realise that they need to make some money to pay for parties....[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't expect anything less from you.
a) They don't charge the buyer. Of course the seller pays fees.
b) All they have done is paid for advertising, we are channeling that into a party. Get over it.
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[QUOTE=brendangfc]Sorry Ric, handing over what money? I was under the impression from your previous answer to my query that you hadn't paid them any money:confused:[/QUOTE]
I didn't. Badly phrased by me, apologies. I meant before making the purchase through them.
Process
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 01/26/2006 - 12:58In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I must admit I don't understand the process as described, but if the only fees are 2% wish they worked in Marche they would save us thousands :o
Although being a suspicious Yorkie "You never get owt for nowt".
Maybe as has been mentioned elsewhere the poor sellers are bearing the brunt.
Dave & Dawn
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[QUOTE=YNot]I must admit I don't understand the process as described, but if the only fees are 2% wish they worked in Marche they would save us thousands :o
Although being a suspicious Yorkie "You never get owt for nowt".
Maybe as has been mentioned elsewhere the poor sellers are bearing the brunt.
Dave & Dawn[/QUOTE]
It's not just 2%. There are the notary fees etc.
*** EDITED 04/07/2006 - If you've read this thread all this way, and you are interested in property in Puglia, then you should realise that a lot has changed since this was written. You can PM for further details as required. ***
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
the 2 per cent isnt an agents fee its for the local solicitors to assist you because as highlighted in their site the following passage....
We strongly recommend you be aware of English law firms pushing their services to assist you in buying abroad. They can use scare tactics to make you employ them but have to use Italian based lawyers to do what we describe below. In other words you are paying two lawyers to do one’s work
applies... of course this is a matter of opinion... and despite rics dislike of my joke about parties... i would say that apart from their mis wording... ie free tours...which is slightly not true ... i think that anyone who can actually buy a house here without paying any fees at all is very lucky.... and i have to say i understand now why the amount of people buying in puglia is so high... i had thought on the forum that several members had bought happily with this company.... it would be nice if they could help ric out by also posting that no fees were involved ... and then we could all safely let him get on with whatever instead of having to argue so much on here for a company that he has nothing to do with... because we are all such cynics and cant work out how a company can make money without charging anyone.... but i believe ric...
Fees
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 01/26/2006 - 19:43In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Ric
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It's not just 2%. There are the notary fees etc.[/QUOTE]
Compared to the "standard" estate agents fee of 3% not including extras such as a survey that is quite a saving.
On a lighter note
[QUOTE]Please note if you decide to visit us and view properties there are no costs for our services while you are in Puglia[/QUOTE]
As Dave Allens son said to him when he was starting school:
"Daddy when will I leave school?"
"At 16 son"
"You won't forget to come back for me will you?"
Dave
Support for Inter Italia
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 01/27/2006 - 02:34In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Adriatica asked some of us to help Ric out. It seems that everyone has quite a thing against Inter Italia who would appear to have merely offered to sponsor a party - are there many people out there who do not attend sponsored parties of some description? It is merely a different form of marketing and as long as any form of marketing is transparent I cannot see the harm.
We purchased through Inter Italia. We paid no fees direct to them, although as with all fees they are obviously built into the price if being paid by the vendor. It was our decision whether we were happy with the purchase price, there was nothing underhand.
The question of fees was in fact so transparent that we actually transferred the amount of their commission directly into their bank account and the balance to the vendor. We were quite happy with that. The percentage of commission is a matter of concern purely for the vendor and agent. The final purchase price was our concern and we freely paid what was negotiated.
The benefit of having an agent who not only spoke English fluently, but who also appeared to understand something of the English way of thinking certainly helped us and gave us more confidence. We could not have managed dealing with an Italian domestic agent direct.
We are very happy with our property. There were no 'nasty' surpirses. In fact it just gets better each time we visit.
In short - one satisfied customer.
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