In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Well I didn't think there were any problems either! On the letter I got it says that the Agenzia delle Entrate uses phone directories and the electoral roll (anagrafi comunali ) to get names and addresses- they seem to be going by name and not address because if they had checked they would have seen that the bills had been paid at my address. In theory non residents will therefore not be checked as they are not present in phone directories or on the local electoral register? Giusto?It also says I quote
"We wish to remind you that , in order to use a TV subsciption of a family member, this must be registered in the municipality registry office, in the same family sheet of the person to whom the communication was sent"
The family sheet is the stato di famiglia which is for residents!
I don't know...This has got me baffled! :veryconfused:
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
It is a bit surprising....There is a significant number of homes in Italy which are used by foreigners for holidays only. We have not looked into the TV situation as yet as we have been too busy with other aspects of the renovations and anyway we are not big TV fans, but I will find out.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Well just a quick look online and I found this - [url=http://www.abbonamenti.rai.it/Ordinari/canone_eng.asp#AddressChanges]RAI Radiotelevisione Italiana - Gestione Abbonamenti[/url] However the links thereafter don't work for me. It is in English so maybe the Italian version works. Now to find it.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Well the other languages work but I cannot find the information in Italian. Maybe you can. [url=http://www.abbonamenti.rai.it]RAI - Radiotelevisione italiana - Abbonamenti[/url]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Okay. This is it I think - [url=http://www.abbonamenti.rai.it/Ordinari/canone.asp]RAI Radiotelevisione Italiana - Gestione Abbonamenti[/url]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Well... I can't see anything related to residency. Anyone owning a TV set or any appliance capable of receiving a TV signal must pay..... If my Italian is correct.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Did the English page work for you just out of interest Gala???
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Italy
In 2008, the licence fee in Italy was €106.00 per household with a TV set [B]or "similar devices" (these include computers, mobiles, video-intercoms, etc).[23][24[/B]]
It is the primary source of income for RAI, which does, however, also broadcast advertising. Italy has problems with collection of the licence, with approximately 40% of viewers (mainly from southern Italy) not paying their licence. One of the reasons is that the maximum fine is only half that of the licence itself (plus the licence on top of that), compared to the UK where the fine is up to £1000 (about €1500.)
Viewers in the province of Bolzano-Bozen, Italy, which has a large German-speaking minority, can also receive Austrian and German public TV and radio channels via terrestrial transmissions. However, they do not pay the German or Austrian license fees.
Source - [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence]Television licence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
found this :
[url=http://www.abbonamenti.rai.it/generici/FAQ.asp?codarea=44]RAI Radiotelevisione Italiana - Gestione Abbonamenti[/url]
Says that non residents have to pay. So why do I have to change the name on the tv licence?? Maybe the call centre girl got her information wrong? :eerr: Is it a good idea to leave it as it is?
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Quite possibly. It is not unusual for those supposed to be giving information to give the wrong one.... If you are paying, I don't think it matters much....
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
They 'pick you up' from the residents lists held by local Comunes. If there is no TV licence listed for you then they will send you that letter.
[B]BUT[/B]
If you are resident - but not the owner of the property - who will ususally be the nominee on the licence and pay for it, you should do the following:
There should be a type of form on the letter to record the details of any TV licence for that property (who-ever's name it is in). Get that licence number from the person who has it and enter [U]that[/U] on the reply form....
This happened to me when I was staying with my neice in Milano following my illness. I [I]was[/I] resident at her address, so I got the TV licence letter, but I did not own the TV. I just entered the details of HER licence on the form and returned it to the Agenzia delle Entrate.
Then later when I moved to my new home, I purchased my own licence. But then I got a letter saying I [I]needed[/I] a licence now that I had moved my residency. Well a snotty letter in reply with a photocopy of my own NEW licence soon shut them up!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=tinacara;96598]found this :
[url=http://www.abbonamenti.rai.it/generici/FAQ.asp?codarea=44]RAI Radiotelevisione Italiana - Gestione Abbonamenti[/url]
Says that non residents have to pay. So why do I have to change the name on the tv licence?? Maybe the call centre girl got her information wrong? :eerr: Is it a good idea to leave it as it is?[/quote]
If you read my posts you will see that link I had already given you!!!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Sally Donaldson;96610]If you read my posts you will see that link I had already given you!!![/quote]
:yes:
Sally, my link takes you to FAQ section of the site...
I'll give the RAI people a ring again tomorrow! Any questions you want me to ask?
This is my situation:
My mother has her name on the licence because she pays our SKY through direct debit. So having SKY we thought it would be better for her to have the licence in her name. If I change the RAI licence in my name the SKY people might get suspicious!
Then again if I don't do anything the Agenzia delle entrate will probably drop a fine on me??
Don't you think they take this residency thing too far sometimes?
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
This is a very useful site:
[URL="http://www.abbonamenti.rai.it/generici/FAQ.asp?codarea=44"][B]>Abbonamenti RAI<[/B][/URL]
I have opened the link with the FAQ's. Unfortunately this page, unlike others is [U]not[/U] in English too.
However one question is :
[B]Q:[/B] "I am resident abroad, I have a house in Italy - must I pay the TV licence?
[B]A: [/B]"Yes, in as much as residence abroad does not exonerate you from paying the fee if there are television sets inside the habitation in Italy.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Tinacara quoted "We wish to remind you that , in order to use a TV subsciption of a family member, this must be registered in the municipality registry office, in the same family sheet of the person to whom the communication was sent"
Now this quoted piece is an explanation of how you can legitimately be allowed (as an individual) to not pay a licence, if a family member resident (officially, and with the knowledge of the comune) at the same address has got a TV licence. Therefore, (as I have the impression that your mother lives at the same address), all you have to do is to tell the Agenzie delle entrate that the licence holder at your address is your mother. Problem solved.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Sally Donaldson;96594]Did the English page work for you just out of interest Gala???[/quote]
I did not try it, Sally, I read the Italian version
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=Now this quoted piece is an explanation of how you can legitimately be allowed (as an individual) to not pay a licence, if a family member resident (officially, and with the knowledge of the comune) at the same address has got a TV licence. Therefore, (as I have the impression that your mother lives at the same address), all you have to do is to tell the Agenzie delle entrate that the licence holder at your address is your mother. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]
My mother is resident in the UK and pays our SKY ITALIA contract.
Today my mother received a letter!
it says that the licence "viene stipulato per il luogo di residenza anagrafica" I have to change the name on the licence to my name it seems!
Does this mean then if you come to Italy temporarily you can't watch any TV?
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
We got the letter too. Do we just go the post office and pay it, and that is it? Our Italian friend has been trying to get a licence ever since moving back to Italy earlier in the year. The local post office didn't know how to do it:veryconfused:
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=Sally Donaldson;96596]...the maximum fine is only half that of the licence itself../QUOTE]
Not quite true Sally. The maximum fine is €516,45. It would take 5 years of non-detection to profit from not-paying.
Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen a detector van?
TV Licence. Do they send you a bill in January?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 12/13/2008 - 06:40In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=MargaretM;97429]We got the letter too. Do we just go the post office and pay it, and that is it? Our Italian friend has been trying to get a licence ever since moving back to Italy earlier in the year. The local post office didn't know how to do it:veryconfused:[/quote]
We don't have TV but English friend's with a holiday house here, have asked me to pay their TV Licence, which I see from the thread, should be paid every January. They are in the UAE for 6 months and have no documentation with them re last years TV licence, so I asked at the PO this morning and got a ..boh!
HELP! Does a request for payment arrive in January if you have always paid previously, if not how do I go about paying for their licence please?
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Noble;105507]We don't have TV but English friend's with a holiday house here, have asked me to pay their TV Licence, which I see from the thread, should be paid every January. They are in the UAE for 6 months and have no documentation with them re last years TV licence, so I asked at the PO this morning and got a ..boh!
HELP! Does a request for payment arrive in January if you have always paid previously, if not how do I go about paying for their licence please?[/quote]
Don't wait for a reminder to be sent as it may never come! As far as I know you can fill out a "bollettino postale". follow this link for more info (in Italian):
[url=http://www.abbonamenti.rai.it/Ordinari/ModalitaPagamento.aspx]RAI - Radiotelevisione italiana - Abbonamenti[/url]
The bollettino receipt is proof you have paid your licence!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
This is a good link too:
[url=http://www.abbonamenti.rai.it/Ordinari/PerAbbonarsi.aspx#modalita]RAI - Radiotelevisione italiana - Abbonamenti part two[/url]
Wait a second that doesn't make sense. Non residents who let out their property surely need one too.