In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=tuscanhills]It's is not very common & from our (partial) understanding, wifes keep with surname after marriage.........[/quote]
We went for our codice fiscale this morning and they insist on using the details straight from the birth certs. So, my wife's code was made up using her maiden name.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=derekL]We went for our codice fiscale this morning and they insist on using the details straight from the birth certs. So, my wife's code was made up using her maiden name.[/QUOTE]
That's perfectly correct,the CF is based on maiden name, there isn't anyreason to change the name in England either, apparently it's just a custom
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/18/2006 - 06:22In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
ciao the nataio that we used questioned as to why my wifes codice had been obtained in her maiden name and not that on her passport, also stated that it can cost up to a €100 euro in admin costs if the comune were not happy with the paper work in respect of, so it seems that there are as usual different rules for different ares villages comunes etc ciao marco
[quote=GeorgeS]That's perfectly correct,the CF is based on maiden name, there isn't anyreason to change the name in England either, apparently it's just a custom[/quote]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=GeorgeS]That's perfectly correct,the CF is based on maiden name, there isn't anyreason to change the name in England either, apparently it's just a custom[/quote]
My wifes CF is in her married name and we didn't have to produce birth certificates, just passports.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
When we got our passports my mother's was issued in her maiden name. Apparently Italian women do not surrender their names when they marry. It has resulted in some confusion when booking tickets as her other passport has her married name, but for the most part people seem to understand.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
My Wife's CF is in her married name, which is on her passport. But then I got the codice in London, and they didn't ask to see birth certificates. No one before yesterday queried the fact that she has my name (and the notaio queried everything else). So I don't think that there is a consistent approach.
Just another little querk, I guess. :) :)
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Do children take the mothers or fathers surname then?:rolleyes:
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/18/2006 - 08:25In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=elainecraig]Do children take the mothers or fathers surname then?:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
As has been said everyone keeps their own name/surname and children take the fathers surname unless in some very specific cases.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Derek, if your wife has her CF with her maiden name then all of her other documents will need to have that name as well. Libretto sanitario, carta d'identità, bank account, permesso di soggiorno, deed to a house, etc. The office that does the CF will normally ask for your name at birth BUT for those who have changed their names, the name should be that which is on the passport as that is the valid ID that they accept here in Italy. If the names do not match on all things you could get in trouble (ask me how I know this ;) )
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
A wife can, optionally, have the husbands surname on a carta d'identita or passport - could help remove confusion. Otherwise you're stuck with the name you're born with
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
actually i think a fairly sensible italian habit..
a cf is based on a set of initials and birth date/place and remains yours for your lifetime ... given at birth here ...this random set of figures and letters is then used to check everything against identification.... so the two sets have to match up... cristina is right... massive headaches if your cf and id do not match.... so the fairly sensable practice of women keeping their own name eventuates at the marriage ceremony
so at long last a piece of italian efficiency.... i wonder if you are allowed to change your name here if you do not like it... what is it called in england ...by deed poll....
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Yes, in England you can call yourself whatever you want, as long as its not for a purposes that it of itself illegal. My wife uses her previous name professionally, and has bank accounts/ credit cards in both names.
Its a fundamental difference in the legal systems of the two countries. England is a common law jurisdiction where basiccaly you can do anything that is not prescibed by the law, whereas in civil jurisdictions you are only allowed to do what the law specifically says that you can do.
Mr Blair, is of course trying hard to be a good socialist/European, and change all this though.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
When I first lived here in the 80's I had a CF with my maiden on. Then we returned to the UK for a few years and I started signing with my husbands name as is the norm in the UK.However upon returning to Italy in 2003 , the Questura issued my PdiS from the details on my UK passport - so when I went to the Comune for my residence etc, they queried this and they contacted the questura, who told them that I was to take the name from my UK passport. I was then asked to go to the Ufficio delle Entrate and get a new 'revised' codice fiscale. It didnt take long (miracle) and I didnt pay anything. Most italians I know find it quite curious that I have my husbands surname. I am glad though, because after 14 years of signing everything as a Mrs I would have found it a bit tricky to go back to another signature.
Karen
It's is not very common & from our (partial) understanding, wifes keep with surname after marriage.........