Well I have to agree that this format doesnt work for me. It hasn't since the start and I've only written a couple of times totally in frustration that I couldn't fnd something. I totally disagree with the person/people above who say if it doesn't work start your own forum. For one, I wouldn't pretend to have a clue how to, and if I did, why would I because the reason I used to come on here was for information that I know it probably has somewhere - or if not you could post a specific query and would get several different answers (just as asking any of the local italians when there). But what was better was that I knew I had a fair chance that I could find an item I might have seen 6 months ago. When I pointed out a couple of weeks ago that I couldn't find something I had posted about a week before I was kindly posted in the right direction - but only by searching under what I had written. It should be much easier. And it used to be. So it's clear that this format doesn't really work. But that does not mean that it has to revert to 'the old one'. I do think it is interesting - and rather telling - that not one bit of input has come from the so called management of this site to ask people what they want or what would make it more user friendly. I think its fair to say it's been given the 100 day 'live with it period' and it's still dull and difficult to navigate. But I dont' believe it's entirely broken so if the management would drop the machosism and if this stil has hope to be an actual community at least listen to the feedback, and even better, ask people how it could be better. It doesn't have to be an either or surely? Or am I being naive?
Interesting reading this - the Alitalia site today for a single in November was £1089. I called them and with the error of language difficulty she initialy joyfully told me yes this was a promotion. Then realised I said thousand not hundred and went off to check but came back to say that yes that was the price because it's single. I told them they are losing business as three of us are travelling 2 of us return and require one single so we eitehr can't travel together or will go ryanair but their travel dates don't quiet work. Am interested as to whether it was just a special promotion on the single fares you seem to have found?
Thanks adriatica. But again, I'd like to know that I was writing under a specific topic. I'm fairly sure this must be here but in the format and view I have it's not possible to see it . Okay, enough for one night as I need info on ENEL and may have to google it elsewhere now :-{
I've just written a long response which disappeared into the ether just before I finished it. I'm unsure as to whether it still might turn up here or not. So if so apologies for duplication, and revision.It's interesting reading the responses to this. Clearly some people feel this is refreshing compared to before, but others just feel it's not easy to navigate and worse it's a bit souless and cold. For me, it's purely a simplicy of navigation and ease of use issue which I'm fairly sure should be resolvable. It wasn't an "I'm leaving" criticism. It was a "please listen to people with different yet simple preferred usage of forums" type of comment. Because if the layout worked before it must surely be easy to make it an option again?If I logged on here really regularly and just wanted to keep on top of a community, this format possibly works. However, if I want to do a combination of random log in depending upon how busy I am, combined with increased log in prior to a visit to italy. I'll want to easily go to a specific location or ici or enel topics. This isn't now clear from this layout. For someone new I think it's really difficult to see what's going on and it may seem more like an exclusive club? But if we could have the option to just change it from chronological to topic/theme I would be happier. Those above who seem to like this format have that choice as well. Seriously, think about it if seeing this page as a newby?Most importantly, I really really dislike the fact that the subject may give you no inidicatilon of what the content is in the current view. I'd no idea what my subject would be and now edit this to say it's the first five words of this reply. What does that tell anyone looking at topics? This is the key problem I have.is feedback not just unnecessary criticism so if you are listening and wanting us to be part of this, is this something you could consider. Adriatica, I'm certainly not longing for the forum of yore, but instead I'm talking about the layout options that we could have. I fear this format may become far more like an exclusive group than the other did if it's just in current format. That's my view. We'll tsee what happens. If it's all a continual defensive ;just bear with it (or leave?)' ather that a 'we'ree listening and we'll see what we can do' I'll spend more time. Otherwise I'll be disappointed that I've wasted ten mnutes of my life taking the time to write this. Thanks for listening. C
I'm afraid I have to agree re the format. I've tried to give it a go reading some of this stuff, but the format and layout is not logical or intuitive to my mind. Noone in their right mind is going to have time or indeed inclination to read everything trying to find areas of interest. If this was a Sunday newpaper with all the supplements I would select the bits I want, and ignore/recycle/bin the ones I'm not at all interested in. Somewhere in between there might be an interesting topic that grabs my attention by a catchy heading. BUT. There is no logical newspaper index to this site so it feels like I'm just reading random shouts whenever I log on. It's a bit sad that it's a fait accomplis rather than trial and see what people want as their options. Quite honestly new activity only works for those who log on regularly. FWIW what worked in the older format was the headings and sub headings that I would maybe select 2-3 areas I was interested in but if something new jumped out of a say language or culture section I might or might not read based on the heading. Please listen to the readers and maybe consider modifying?
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Well I have to agree that this format doesnt work for me. It hasn't since the start and I've only written a couple of times totally in frustration that I couldn't fnd something. I totally disagree with the person/people above who say if it doesn't work start your own forum. For one, I wouldn't pretend to have a clue how to, and if I did, why would I because the reason I used to come on here was for information that I know it probably has somewhere - or if not you could post a specific query and would get several different answers (just as asking any of the local italians when there). But what was better was that I knew I had a fair chance that I could find an item I might have seen 6 months ago. When I pointed out a couple of weeks ago that I couldn't find something I had posted about a week before I was kindly posted in the right direction - but only by searching under what I had written. It should be much easier. And it used to be. So it's clear that this format doesn't really work. But that does not mean that it has to revert to 'the old one'. I do think it is interesting - and rather telling - that not one bit of input has come from the so called management of this site to ask people what they want or what would make it more user friendly. I think its fair to say it's been given the 100 day 'live with it period' and it's still dull and difficult to navigate. But I dont' believe it's entirely broken so if the management would drop the machosism and if this stil has hope to be an actual community at least listen to the feedback, and even better, ask people how it could be better. It doesn't have to be an either or surely? Or am I being naive?
Interesting reading this - the Alitalia site today for a single in November was £1089. I called them and with the error of language difficulty she initialy joyfully told me yes this was a promotion. Then realised I said thousand not hundred and went off to check but came back to say that yes that was the price because it's single. I told them they are losing business as three of us are travelling 2 of us return and require one single so we eitehr can't travel together or will go ryanair but their travel dates don't quiet work. Am interested as to whether it was just a special promotion on the single fares you seem to have found?
Thanks adriatica. But again, I'd like to know that I was writing under a specific topic. I'm fairly sure this must be here but in the format and view I have it's not possible to see it . Okay, enough for one night as I need info on ENEL and may have to google it elsewhere now :-{
I've just written a long response which disappeared into the ether just before I finished it. I'm unsure as to whether it still might turn up here or not. So if so apologies for duplication, and revision.It's interesting reading the responses to this. Clearly some people feel this is refreshing compared to before, but others just feel it's not easy to navigate and worse it's a bit souless and cold. For me, it's purely a simplicy of navigation and ease of use issue which I'm fairly sure should be resolvable. It wasn't an "I'm leaving" criticism. It was a "please listen to people with different yet simple preferred usage of forums" type of comment. Because if the layout worked before it must surely be easy to make it an option again?If I logged on here really regularly and just wanted to keep on top of a community, this format possibly works. However, if I want to do a combination of random log in depending upon how busy I am, combined with increased log in prior to a visit to italy. I'll want to easily go to a specific location or ici or enel topics. This isn't now clear from this layout. For someone new I think it's really difficult to see what's going on and it may seem more like an exclusive club? But if we could have the option to just change it from chronological to topic/theme I would be happier. Those above who seem to like this format have that choice as well. Seriously, think about it if seeing this page as a newby?Most importantly, I really really dislike the fact that the subject may give you no inidicatilon of what the content is in the current view. I'd no idea what my subject would be and now edit this to say it's the first five words of this reply. What does that tell anyone looking at topics? This is the key problem I have.is feedback not just unnecessary criticism so if you are listening and wanting us to be part of this, is this something you could consider. Adriatica, I'm certainly not longing for the forum of yore, but instead I'm talking about the layout options that we could have. I fear this format may become far more like an exclusive group than the other did if it's just in current format. That's my view. We'll tsee what happens. If it's all a continual defensive ;just bear with it (or leave?)' ather that a 'we'ree listening and we'll see what we can do' I'll spend more time. Otherwise I'll be disappointed that I've wasted ten mnutes of my life taking the time to write this. Thanks for listening. C
I'm afraid I have to agree re the format. I've tried to give it a go reading some of this stuff, but the format and layout is not logical or intuitive to my mind. Noone in their right mind is going to have time or indeed inclination to read everything trying to find areas of interest. If this was a Sunday newpaper with all the supplements I would select the bits I want, and ignore/recycle/bin the ones I'm not at all interested in. Somewhere in between there might be an interesting topic that grabs my attention by a catchy heading. BUT. There is no logical newspaper index to this site so it feels like I'm just reading random shouts whenever I log on. It's a bit sad that it's a fait accomplis rather than trial and see what people want as their options. Quite honestly new activity only works for those who log on regularly. FWIW what worked in the older format was the headings and sub headings that I would maybe select 2-3 areas I was interested in but if something new jumped out of a say language or culture section I might or might not read based on the heading. Please listen to the readers and maybe consider modifying?