9108 Annual tax retrun

Hi! I seem to recall seeing something about a new rule requiring all property owners to make an Italian tax return from 2008, but I can't find anything about this on the forums now. Did I dream it? Sadly, I suspect not! Can anyone briefly advise as to what is required and when the return has to be made? Many thanks.

Also (and I'm slightly hi-jacking my own thread here!), a business related question. We currently still reside in the UK, but we hope to come out to Italy later this year. Initially, we will not become Italian residents as we don't know exactly how things are going to work out longer term (although we already have a house in Italy). I have a internet based business which I run from home in the UK, and I am currently a self employed sole trader. I would like, if possible, at least initially, to keep the business as a UK tax concern - the reason for this is two-fold: 1) my Italian is not yet good enough to tackle the Italian paperwork, especially if it turns out to only be a temporary measure, and 2) it would be better for my business to remain 'UK based'. Is anyone in a similar situation? Can this be achieved? Would it be easier if I become a limited company? I want to stress that I am not trying to 'evade' the Italian tax system - I simply just don't want to make large changes to the business unnecessarily. Also, I appreciate that the obvious answer to this query is 'See a tax specialist', but it is still early days and I would currently be very grateful for any advice that anyone in a similar situation can give.

Also, having just previewed my post, I have just remembered reading that all businesses in Italy must be VAT registered... however, I think I will leave that post for another day!

I apologise for what turned out to be quite a long post!

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Cost of living - Utility Services

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 03/22/2008 - 04:45

there is a great deal within the thread below which will answer your questions i think regarding taxation.....

[URL]http://www.italymag.co.uk/forums/property-sales-rental-advice/8005-tax-rental-income-paid-uk-italy-2.html[/URL]

as regards vat have just posted this below and it nows allow you to run a business here without registering for Vat if you stay within certain limits...there is a link within that thread to the italian site which also heelps with the italian income tax return form... on occaision these can be viewed in english... but am not sure how extensive that is...

[URL]http://www.italymag.co.uk/forums/general-chat-about-italy/9073-help-small-enterprise-startups.html[/URL]

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 03/22/2008 - 05:24

The local centro commericale had a little booth setup by somebody doing returns. Bring in your paperwork and have it done while you shop. Reminds me of H&R in North America. Likely cheaper then an office some place. It also seemed like a chain. OTOH I just walked by pretty quickly and didn't really check things.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 03/27/2008 - 01:58

I saw the booth again yesterday.

35 Euros to fill out a 730
50 Euros for a Unico

I only paid a bit of attention but I think the signs mentioned this included figuring out your ICI and a bunch of other stuff. How much are people paying for just ICI?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 03/27/2008 - 02:44

The labour union CISL will prepare income tax returns, ICI, etc at low cost. For ICI they charge 10 euro (I had them do it the first time because I had some sanzioni (I didn't know about ICI until 5 years after house purchase :reallyembarrassed:). Now I compute ICI myself for free). They have offices in practically every comune in Italy.
[url=http://www.cisl.it/Sito.nsf?OpenDatabase&CNt=HOME;PT=PaginaInterna;DOC=HomeStrutture^Testo;]CISL[/url]

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 03/27/2008 - 04:04

We paid 25 euros last November to the "commercialista" in Barga recommended by our Real Estate agents. We did not have an appointment. They did it in a few minutes while we went to inspect the large brico centre in that town.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 06/20/2008 - 06:41

Hi Gala,

I sent you a private message, don't know if you've seen it...

Sue

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 06/24/2008 - 13:40

I saw the posts about having to make an IRPEF declaration from 2008 too (relating to the "rendita catastale"). I mentioned it to my commercialista and she looked at me like I was mad. Said the rules had not changed (she knew the law...) and our rendita was so low that we didn't have to fill in an income tax form..... I don't know what to do now.

Does anyone know the number or name of the law which changed the rules?

People in our little town think we are crazy for wanting to pay tax in the first place. They spend their lives trying to avoid it. I think I'm going to need details of this new law if I'm going to have any success with this. But maybe I'm being too English...? I worried about getting a "multa"...:(

Can anyone help?