In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=myabruzzohome;89517]
I'd certainly heard all about this from il centro which is why I urge any one even remotely interested in Abruzzo to buy a copy whenever they are there.[/quote]
And then there's the [URL="http://ilcentro.repubblica.it/"]Il Centro website[/URL] for when they [I]aren't[/I] there.
Al
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I wish I'd known this last week when the digger was here digging a hole for my new bombola, I might have persuaded him to keep on digging!!!lol
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Yes we need lots of support The Verde party have been excellent and have really tried in every way to help out over this issue and also the illegal setting up of "antenna per telefonnini" which are springing up like mushrooms with local comune's totally disregarding " piani regolatore"
out of sight....
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/15/2008 - 09:07In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Perhaps those of us with web sites can copy and paste the logo onto their homepage?that way we can help to raise awareness of these issues although I do think theres a lot of people here who'd rather just forget about these issues.
Its a matter of out of sight out of mind and sometimes its the pollution you can't see that causes the most damage ; whilst you may not have an oil well dug at the end of your garden you could still suffer from the effects of the pollution from one nearby.
I've done this link on mine ( you'll need to create a link to 'naturaverde' website )
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Great I hope they find oil and develop the areas. Will bring jobs and wealth to the region. With the world demand for oil increasing and the supplies struggling to keep up we've all seen the price of a barrel of oil increase dramatically. More reserves are required and if found would boost the economy of Abruzzo.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I dont think you quite know what your saying ! We need alternatives to overpriced oil that only causes damage to our enviroment that WE all have to live in . The area around Ortona is beautiful and grows some of the regions finer wines, all of this and much more would be lost, there are about 600 hundred families that live on the production of wine , so just in that sector there would be losers . And we would all lose healthwise . Put it in your backyard if your so keen and not ours.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Yes I do know what I'm saying thank you very much! There is NO alternative at present to overpriced oil. The area will only be developed if it's economically viable to do so. Exploration costs are expensive, once the test wells are drilled costs spiral. Abruzzo isn't going to turn into the new Dubai, if there were large amounts of oil it would be being pumped out by now. It'll be small pockets (if any) that are now viable due to the price of oil.
Oil production brings jobs and wealth to an area. Just look at the standard of living of the people in Aberdeen compared to most of the rest of the UK. Some wine production may be affected, it all depends on what oil there is, but the young people of Abruzzo need jobs and security.
The UK on the whole has a good standard of living, a lot of that wealth is on the back of North Sea oil and gas. Why try and deny the young of Abruzzo their slice of monetary improvements?
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
First of all i thought your post was a wind up so I thought it best to ignore it but I can see now that you are totally serious.
Why don't you spend a little time reading up about other areas in Italy where such 'explorations' have taken place?
Unfortunately for many complex and puzzling reasons Italian bureaucrats and politans both local and national seem to see such schemes as simply a good way to line their own pockets. Any regard for the safety of the local environment features very low on their list of priorities.
Look at the Naples rubbish fiasco or in our area the Bussi time bomb if you want proof of the total environmental disaster that would follow widespread oil drilling in Abruzzo.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
You do sound naive Kerry & Susan , I get the feeling you live in the UK . What my Abruzzohome stated above is exactly right. and please dont tell me about the young people of Abruzzo not having work I know all about the difficulty they have as I have 2 of them still at home !
A friends son did a concorso for the ASL not so long back when he had finished the exam and gone outside along with the other candidates , he suddenly remembered he had forgotten his identity card so he went back inside to get it and found all the commision members standing around 1 remaining candidate and all helping him fill in the concorso papers, he wasent terribly shocked as it happens all the time . They had all been wasting there time that morning as it was already decided who would get the job , the one who was able to slip "bustarelle" this is the side of Italy you are unaware of .
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Anzanum, may I ask what your son did to alert and complain through the proper channels about this blatent abuse he witnessed? Did he take the Italian stance?
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
No it was a friends son an Italian friend , and he didnt do anything which seems to be fairly normal , I agree with you I would of created hell, but they dont !
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
You're right I do live in the UK but have a place in Abruzzo and visit regularly. It is possible to have oil and gas production running alongside environmentally sensitive areas if the required measures are in place. Here in Lincolnshire we have well established offshore gas production and a small amount of onshore oil and gas production. The oil and gas industry in this area provides a reasonable contribution to the wealth of the region, mainly towards the north and east.
I agree Abruzzo is a fantastic place and a crime would be committed if it was environmentally ruined but you can't just have one big national park called Abruzzo and expect to live off the tourists for the whole region. Italy has to import virtually all of its oil, mainly from Libya, with spiralling oil costs and a stagnant economy it probably makes economic sense to explore its oil reserves further now.
I don't want to get into a fight, come across as an uncaring sod or seem as though this is just a wind up. We all need oil to live the lives we do, we drive cars, fly, heat our homes expect electricity at the flick of a switch and expect to live a comfortable 1st world lifestyle. This comes at a price at this moment in time, the price is we need fossil fuels to live.
You're probably all right and the Italians starting oil production in Abruzzo could be a disaster and could possibly ruin a lovely area. Perhaps it is naive of me to think they would do it properly, but it can be done so the environmental impact is negligble and the economic impact fantastic. It'd be a shame, if there is oil there, that the economic bonus wasn't taken and /or the environmental impact was a disaster.
Kerry
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Kerry & Susan;89745]...but you can't just have one big national park called Abruzzo and expect to live off the tourists for the whole region...[/quote]
Especially when there seems little effort put into selling the place as a holiday destination. The tourist folks do seem to think that the same Italians coming back to the same sun lounger on the same Adriatic beach every summer is what tourism is really all about. And since Italians are such creatures of habit in such matters, they obviously don't need to do [I]anything[/I] to ensure serried ranks of baking bods every August.
How many of your friends - even those who have been to Italy before; even the Italophiles - have any idea where Abruzzo is, nevermind what it has to offer visitors?
Al
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Selling Abruzzo to tourists. Perhaps a new career is in the 'pipeline' for you Allan. :bigergrin:
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Kerry & Susan;89709]..... Just look at the standard of living of the people in Aberdeen compared to most of the rest of the UK...
Sorry Kerry & Susan (not meaning to "bash you") but I cannot leave that comment unchallenged. I have just come back from working in Aberdeen for a couple of weeks and all I saw was depressing, dispiriting levels of drug abuse, violence and alcoholism (and that was just on my way to work each day). I was actually taken aback by how little of the vast profits from oil have affected the quality of life in Aberdeen. I really wouldn't want that as a successful example of the benefits of finding oil.
[URL]http://www.comitatonaturaverde.it/files/MISSION/CARTA%20TITOLI%20MINERARI%20311207.pdf[/URL]
This map shows area where permission for searches has been given and more! I suggest anyone in Abruzzo might want to take a look.Its not easy to relate it exactly to the os type map but as Adriatica points out its the ortona area most 'at risk'.
I'd certainly heard all about this from il centro which is why I urge any one even remotely interested in Abruzzo to buy a copy whenever they are there.
I'm not sure if non-residents can sigb the petition?