In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
The pork producers will have to strike for a long time before it affects the supply of products which take months to age.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
This type of situation is inevitable in todays economic & environmental climate. Similar situations will (and are already) spreading across any production sectors which depend on oil - i.e. all of them.
While I have sympathy for high end products whose producers are feeling the pinch, I have to say that this is just a very thin end of a very thick wedge. Forget the cost of your san daniele increasing - it's a quality product and there will always be customers prepared to pay for quality even in hard times.
Worry instead about the (shamefully under-reported) world food crisis which has seen the staple foods of the majority of the worlds population rise entirely beyond their ability to afford it. Rice & wheat production, pricing, demand & consumption is utterly scary at present. But unless you go looking in the highbrow press or on the net you'd never know - it rarely merits even a footnote on mainstream TV coverage, despite export bans by the worlds biggest exporters, military intervention to quell serious food riots etc. etc.
The rice production crisis of the last 6 months appears to be easing at present with bumper yields in the asian paddy fields ... and that will in due course ease inflationary pressure on the price of rice as long as the fad for bio fuels doesn't get any worse ... but rice is a commodity, and its value is determined by traders in futures markets (none of whom would know what it felt like to go hungry for a day, far less for life). In my view, we're on the verge of huge popular unrest. All it will take is some inclement weather and/or another few bucks on the price of a barrel of crude to hit a tipping point in food pricing at which it becomes fight, steal or starve for many.
panem et circenses is all well and good but there aren't too many circuses in the countries I'm talking about so lets just hope that the bread supply recovers :wideeyed:
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
And Mr Mugabe is in Rome today telling everybody how to cope with starving nations. He should know.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
surprised he's not too busy [STRIKE]beating up his political opponents[/STRIKE] canvassing for re-election to go galavanting around Europe right now. It's all gone horribly quiet on the election front there - I think the re-run is supposed to be within the next month, but it's almost too depressing to think about ... no chance of the vote being remotely fair after this length of time (not that it was ever going to be 'fair' but there was at least a groundswell of popular bravery last time out, which I can't imagine will be repeated now that Mugabe has had months to work on the problem :-(
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
With any luck he'll choke on some prosciutto whilst he's here...
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote] This type of situation is inevitable in todays economic & environmental climate. Similar situations will (and are already) spreading across any production sectors which depend on oil - i.e. all of them.[/quote]
Which is clearly not happening with concern over the pork farmers.
Everything has got dearer,but the value of the end product [pork] which has got cheaper!!
Surely pork prices should have gone up to? Which would suggest there are too many pigs available for slaughter......or a dwindling market for ham products....
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Just because costs are up doesn't mean prices go up at the same time. I'm sure everybodys expenses are up but not many bosses handing out raises.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=NickZ;90787]Just because costs are up doesn't mean prices go up at the same time. I'm sure everybodys expenses are up but not many bosses handing out raises.[/quote]
OIL prices are up It seems to be effecting all consumables, pork is a consumerable product,and the feed has gone sky high.
So one could assume that a farmer would have to offset the higher price for producing pigs for market,therefore the price should go up.
Instead the report says they have gone down?
I do not see where wages come into it,we are talking consumerables,the market price for the item[the pig]not the farmer wages......
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Gio, if there are any parallels with the UK, production prices rise with oil prices etc. but prices paid to farmers for the product can still fall due to the 'supermarket' effect - once you have one massive customer rather than thousands of little ones, the pressure on price is always downward. Actually, That gives me an idea :SLEEP:
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=giovanni;90788]
I do not see where wages come into it,we are talking consumerables,the market price for the item[the pig]not the farmer wages......[/quote]
No were talking prices. Farmers aren't price setters they are price takers. They can try raising prices but nothing stops people from buying from the next farm or just buying something else.
Livestock farmers have the added pressure of livestock getting dumped on the market. If you can't afford the feed you send the animals to market earlier.
Costs don't matter to buyers the same way your boss doesn't care about your expenses.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Moved to : Italiauncovered.co.uk
Raise a pig. Then you'll get two prociutto --))