9842 Swimming pools

Not a local Italian company, but they are a lot cheaper than the others - [url=http://www.christalpools.com/home.html]Christal Pools - WELCOME TO CHRISTAL POOLS[/url].
Depends if you mind having a figure of eight shaped pool. We've had one fitted and its fine for our needs

Try [url=http://www.deltagliapiscine.it]Piscine - Piscina- prefabricate - piscine costo - piscine esterne - piscine prefabbricate - costruzione piscine - piscine da giardino - prezzi piscine interrate[/url] we have a pool from this company (water-air) great quality and a very good price.

We have had ours since 2004 and would definitely have the same again - although bigger. Ours come from Gramaglia, who are at Osimo (near Ancona) and would thouroughly recommend them.

We used a company from Macerata GSM [url=http://www.giessemme.it]video_gsm[/url] who do pools and irrigation, the system is new to Marche, but not Italy, and consists of interlocking polystyrene blocks that sit on a concrete foundation and are filled with reinforced concrete, the whole unit is then lined. For a 14metre pool we paid €20,000 plus excavation, labour and geometras fees, all of which you need to price match. There are geometras who'll do your pool plans for €500 rather than 10% of project cost, excavation reckon on €70-€80 an hour for a JCB, so about €1000, and for the labour try and get a builder on a day rate-- it's an easy job and probably took our builders 11-12 mandays. The system is good and the results are excellent

A friend of ours has had a block system and it looks fine, however at the end of the process the pool took much longer due to weather restrictions etc and cost more than the quote he had for the resin one from Gramaglia.

The great thing about the resin types are that they are up and running in 3 days - all you need before is a jcb or mini digger to make the hole and sand for it to sit on. Happy to have a chat if you need more info - or come and see ours.

If you are renting out they are much less hassle and there is no chance of torn liners!

Ours took one week in total after permissions, and the other great benefit with gramaglia was that everything was supplied from pumps,filters, lights, cleaning equipment, hoses, chemicals right down to a testing kit.

You also usually need a geologist (your geometra will organise this) and the pool cannot be filled with town water - you can order a tanker unless you have a well.

Hope this helps

Just a query Pam, are you saying that all pools must be filled by tanker and not use the town water?.
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Hi Angie and Robert, yes that is the case - you can be heavily fined unless of course you have another source of water like a well.

regards

Pam

Perhaps it's obvious but a well pump will take time to fill a swimming pool because it cannot simply be left on indefinately to pour water into the pool or it will burnt out the motor. Depending how big the pool and good the well water supply is, it can take days/weeks. Swimming pool water gets "tired" and so needs changing every 7 to 10 years some say 6 to 8 years. So much to learn!!

[quote=Noble;92160].......... Swimming pool water gets "tired" ..........[/quote]

What does "tired" water look like? - and what does it stop doing when its "tired"?

[serious question - but it does have its humorous side]

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"Tired water" looks slightly misty/cloudy - no matter how much filtering or chemical treatments have taken place. The tired part is the excess of X parts per million that free float and are not dangerous in most cases but unsightly.

[quote=Noble;92160]Perhaps it's obvious but a well pump will take time to fill a swimming pool because it cannot simply be left on indefinately to pour water into the pool or it will burnt out the motor. Depending how big the pool and good the well water supply is, it can take days/weeks. Swimming pool water gets "tired" and so needs changing every 7 to 10 years some say 6 to 8 years. So much to learn!![/quote]
If you are planning on renting your place and doing it legally, then there are a bunch of laws that you will need to comply with, one of these requires pool water to be changed annually! whether it's tired or not

We've just used Siarplast, they know what they're doing and the quality is good, not cheap but we thought it was worth it. PM us if you want more details.

Have clients who have pools done by Siarplast & Piscian Piu (A small company in Civitanova) and would recommend both of them- any problems and they are usually there within 24 hours to help.

In my experience (limited to my own pool construction) it is important to remember that Italians understand their own interesting geological idiosyncracies the best. I had to mediate between a Brit who had put in plenty of pools in France (where as far as I know they don't have earthquakes) and local builders who were horrified to think I might put in a pool without concrete rafts etc. Result: a pool which was probably over-engineered given its original spec, but hopefully will turn out to withstand Italian conditions! And a major sulk from the Brit.

[quote=annec;92439] Result: a pool which was probably over-engineered given its original spec, but hopefully will turn out to withstand Italian conditions! And a major sulk from the Brit.[/quote]
But if the pool was indeed "over-engineered", then it seems to me the sulk was not unjustified.

This tale reminds me of what happened when I had a builder install a new bathtub. Because the alcove was wider than the tub, I told him I wanted a tiled flat surface about 10cm wide around the bathtub on three sides. Rather than simply mounting some planks on the wall and tiling them, the builder created 15cm thick steel-reinforced concrete shelves around the tub. This solution works and it will defintely withstand Italian conditions, but it was a waste of time and money. I think it also demonstrates how Italian builders are so accustomed to using concrete that they will use it even when it's completely unnecessary.

Al

We used Floriano Scoppa - who is based in Morrovalle - tel number 0733 566746.
He actually renovated a very old pool of ours and did an excellent job and came in on budget (other than some extras we had specifically asked for). I would highly recommend him. He also speaks good English. Mention my name if you speak to him - Caroline Lombardelli - house near Paterno.

The cost of swimming pools in Tuscany (?Italy) seems ridiculous. Quotes we've had for a 12x6 meter pool were €53-57000 (£29000 in the UK!).

A company has been recommended to us who have quoted €13000 + IVA - but we need to dig the hole. If you're interest their email is:
[email]culliganservice-ge@tiscali.it[/email]

Since we're in the same boat as you, please would you be kind enough to let me know if you make any positive progress:yes:

I will definately keep you fully posted regarding progress and thanks for the email contact. As a matter of interest is your quote fully including pool, excavation and IVA??

Best regards, Chris

The quotes for £29000 in the UK, and for €53-57000 in Italy, were for the whole deal (although I seem to remember that the Italain quotes didn't incluse IVA!).:no:

The costs of running a swimming pool in Italy are high in our opinion. That's for all sorts of things from the winter cover to nets and brushes to clean with, but the COST OF CHEMICALS HAS INCREASED BY 75% IN 4 YEARS. We do shop around and ask friends what they pay but when trying to keep our summer rental prices as low as possible, such an increase hits the bank balance.

The best investment we ever made to keep the swimming pool clean when we were living in Australia was a "Kreepy Krauly". Absolutely fantastic!
[url=http://www.kreepykrauly.co.za/our_success.htm]Kreepy Krauly[/url]
I think that it is sold in Europe as well, although it comes from South Africa.