In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I agree with Charles, who is going to check and how?
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I can see that maybe it would be difficult to check, but I would still appreciate it if somebody out there knew the actual answer?
Surely if you have to keep registering at the local commune every time you arruve back, they can tell that you are there most of the year?
I should be grateful for the answer if you know it about the 90 days and the 183 days.
Thanks
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
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..............Surely if you have to keep registering at the local commune every time you arrive back, they can tell that you are there most of the year?................[/quote]
Who registers these days?
Mind you - if they asked the local Baker - he'd be able to tell them when I've been around.
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In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Hi,
This rule is still in place and its up to you if you follow it.
I posted some info here. [url=http://www.italyforum.it/eu-citizen-living-italy-legal-requirments-t748/]EU Citizen Living in Italy - legal Requirments[/url]
I'm not sure about the 183 days rule you mention.
Hope this helps.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Thanks Chillout for the help.
I looked on the other forum that you had posted on. I think I'll register on that too. You cant be on enough of these forums in my opinion - they really are a great help.
Many thanks again.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Charles Phillips;95557]What legalties? Why are you concerned? Are you of romany origin? Just ignore it all.[/quote]
Surely this depends on what you plan to do while living in Italy? If you want to (or have to) work - then your "status" may be very important.
On the 183 days - I suspect this is related to tax status rather than "residency" and is adminstered speperately (regardless of residency) - so the country you spend the majority of your time in would like you to file your tax returns there (the UK has the same rules for example).
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
If what you have told us is correct (that you are planning to live on your savings and are returning to the UK about every three months), I think you would be unwise to register even when this is formally a legal requirement.
You are likely to be exceeding the 90 day limit by only a few days or at most weeks. Living on a very low income, you are also likely to have bought your return flights before the 90 day limits expire (to get cheap fares), so you can demonstrate your intention to leave the country in the remote likelihood that your status is ever challenged.
If you register, you may have to queue for many hours with those who do register (almost entirely citizens of non-EU states and of recent accession states). You may then meet a bureaucrat who is surprised to see you, and who is therefore suspicious. He may then choose to disbelieve your story about where you are resident and how you are supporting yourself, and require you to produce evidence of every element of it - causing you no end of hassle.
All of this is hypothetical - I do not know whether it would or even could happen. But it seems to me more likely to happen than that there could be any adverse result of your overstaying the 90 day limit by only a few days.
(And it might be particularly likely to happen if you say that you are 'living' in Italy rather than on holiday. If you're coming here to live, then residence procedures usually apply.)
When in doubt, keep your head down. Steer clear of Italian (and other) bureaucracy!
What legalties? Why are you concerned? Are you of romany origin? Just ignore it all.