In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
At my English Convent school it was assumed that we would all be good catholic wives, to successful men, therefore we learnt a lot of useless things...as WHY DO..above and including ...If the Pope and the Queen Mother came to dinner ...how would we seat them around the table!!!!!!!!! Thankfully nowadays neither I nor anyone else I know, could care less!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
HI Noble
If the pope and the [B]queen mother [/B]came to dinner, I would run a mile...........think about it
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[quote=Noble;100190]At my English Convent school it was assumed that we would all be good catholic wives, to successful men, therefore we learnt a lot of useless things...as WHY DO..above and including ...If the Pope and the Queen Mother came to dinner ...how would we seat them around the table!!!!!!!!! Thankfully nowadays neither I nor anyone else I know, could care less![/quote]
Can't disagree with you're indifference to [I]that[/I] particular example Noble... if it were those two, maybe you're right - "Chi se ne frega?"
BUT - supposing you were about to get married and it was your future wife's grandfather and your grandmother? How would you seat them? :bigergrin:
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[quote=Nardini;100188]It's just poor breeding, CaroleB. Obviously. No one with any knowledge of etiquette would dream of doing such a thing. They must all be northerners, that you have witnessed doing such a thing. Buttering both halves of your roll, indeed. It beggars belief what some people will do...[/quote]
No, no, no.....my friends in the UK are [I]nearly[/I] all southerners....so it must be the way they were 'dragged up' - right? :winki:
It's only over here that the majority of people I know are 'polentoni'! :yes:
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My grandmother was a very aristocratic Italian. It seemed that very little could please her and certainly I doubt she would eat a morsel and were ever we sat her, she'd complain of a draft!!!
The OH's grandfather was dead before we married so I have no experience to go on and neither spoke the others language, so I wait for others to decide the seating position please!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Disgraceful behaviour!
You must first break the bread into half inch cubes, remove all the crust - and then butter each piece individually! :laughs:
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=deborahandricky;100193]HI Noble
If the pope and the [B]queen mother [/B]came to dinner, I would run a mile...........think about it[/quote]
Thought about it. Isn't the Queen Mother dead??? lol
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
OH Sally!!!!.............Oh and one does not butter bread that accompanies soup...or is that just being a square?
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[quote=juliancoll;100204]Disgraceful behaviour!
You must first break the bread into half inch cubes, remove all the crust - and then butter each piece individually! LOL [/quote]
[quote]By: Nardini "....It's just poor breeding, CaroleB. Obviously. No one with any knowledge of etiquette would dream of doing such a thing. They must all be northerners, that you have witnessed doing such a thing. Buttering both halves of your roll, indeed. It beggars belief what some people will do...[/quote]
OK, OK - you can all take the 'p**s' out of me. See if I care... I'll not go running off screaming that I've had my feelings hurt (promise). [IMG]http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/imjscn/Skype%20Animated/emoticon-0106-crying.gif[/IMG]
The 'morsel' of bread with the soup was the only photo I could find that was the right size, and I chose the subject of a roll and butter as a [I]'tongue in cheek'[/I] item, in the hopes that others would join in with some equally daft and inexplicable situations. I see I was wrong so I will retire to a neutral corner with my head bowed in shame, and say no more. [IMG]http://emoticonhq.com/images/Pidgin/pidginfootinmouth.gif[/IMG]
[SIZE="1"]But I'll get you back - you'll see :tongue:[/SIZE]
[IMG]http://www.ggaonline.org/graemlins/rotfl1.gif[/IMG]
Knowing Which Side My Bread Is Buttered
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 11:01In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I don't put butter on my bread as you get such a wonderful variety of tasty breads in London.
Thinking of differences rather than "Why do ..... " between Italy and the UK
A green or mixed salad usually comes after the first two courses in Italy. In the UK at the same time as the second course.
Cappuccini here tend to be large, hot and have chocolate on top but not so of course in Italy.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
To rip the bread in Marche, would take the likes of Geoff Capes, and no amount of butter makes it any better.........blimey Im a poet init .............
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[quote=Sally Donaldson;100266]Cappuccini here tend to be large, hot and have chocolate on top but not so of course in Italy.[/quote]You really should stop drinking that sweet American stuff - or you'll end up looking like one. An American - not a double whipped frappuchino with extra malt and chocolate syrup, with an Orio or ten...
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[quote=Carole B;100263]
[SIZE="1"]But I'll get you back - you'll see :tongue:[/SIZE][/quote]
[SIZE="1"]Bring it on![/SIZE] :bigergrin:
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[quote=Sally Donaldson;100266]I don't put butter on my bread as you get such a wonderful variety of tasty breads in London.
Thinking of differences rather than "Why do ..... " between Italy and the UK
A green or mixed salad usually comes after the first two courses in Italy. In the UK at the same time as the second course.
Cappuccini here tend to be large, hot and have chocolate on top but not so of course in Italy.[/quote]
In Italy dishes are served separately. Then you can enjoy the different flavours. In the UK, salad has no flavour so it doesn’t really matter when it is served.
I don’t know where you get your cappuccini from but here I can get a delicious, large, hot cappuccino with chocolate on top at almost any bar - before 10 am of course!:laughs:
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OK I'll play the game...A friend had the idea that she would cook a traditional English Christmas dinner for the man who looks after her place and his family. (It was February and she is a terrible cook so it all came from Tesco to be safe!).
Why do the English have all this cutlery and why do they have this plate on the left and why do they use all these glasses when 2 is enough...wine and water? And why do they mind so much when we keep dashing outside for a smoke????
We were invited to explain why and eat the nasty food! Why do English people bring such stuff to Italy?
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Nardini;100273]You really should stop drinking that sweet American stuff - or you'll end up looking like one. An American - not a double whipped frappuchino with extra malt and chocolate syrup, with an Orio or ten...[/quote]
You are behind the times Nardini. I usually go to Pret A Manger, a British chain that serves organic produce and makes really great British cappuccini which I'll miss when I eventually move to Italy.
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Why do .... Lamborghini keep giving away 325kph supercars?
[url=http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/081024/oddities/italy_police_lamborghini_offbeat]Italian police get crime-fighting Lamborghini - Yahoo! Canada News[/url]
(I thought this was an old story, but it isn't, it's a new Lambo!)
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By: Nardini "....It's just poor breeding, CaroleB. Obviously. No one with any knowledge of etiquette would dream of doing such a thing. They must all be northerners, that you have witnessed doing such a thing. Buttering both halves of your roll, indeed. It beggars belief what some people will do...
Nardini
WHY DO you, as per your quote above, assume that people who cut their bread and butter both sides are northerners???
Maralyn
County Durham
And I break my bread and use no butter
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=Maralyn;100433]By: Nardini "....It's just poor breeding, CaroleB. Obviously. No one with any knowledge of etiquette would dream of doing such a thing. They must all be northerners, that you have witnessed doing such a thing. Buttering both halves of your roll, indeed. It beggars belief what some people will do...
Nardini
WHY DO you, as per your quote above, assume that people who cut their bread and butter both sides are northerners???
Maralyn
County Durham
And I break my bread and use no butter[/quote]
Hey Maralyn, go easy on poor old Nardini - did you miss his little green man like this :bigergrin: , in the top corner of his post.... he was pulling my leg (or he better have been...:eerr: ) and I answered him in the same vein - he didn't offend me at all.
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Erm Carole - I think Maralyn was replying in the same vein - even Northerners don't butter their bread BOTH sides - not unless they drop it on the floor and pick the fluff off first. :bigergrin:
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[quote=Maralyn;100433]WHY DO you, as per your quote above, assume that people who cut their bread and butter both sides are northerners?[/quote]
Aye oop, chook...
Why, Maralyn, you mean that the stories of flat cap wearing, Wenslydale cheese eating, trouser string tying northerners* I was told of when at school in London were not true? Really? Good heavens above! I can scarcely credit it!
*For the benefit of American readers, the "oop north" I am referring to here is the area above the big bump in the east coast - to the left of the sea, silly. An area that is about the size of the Netherlands - or slightly less than twice the size of New Jersey, according to the [URL="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nl.html"]CIA[/URL].
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[quote=Nardini;100695]Aye oop, chook...
Why, Maralyn, you mean that the stories of flat cap wearing, Wenslydale cheese eating, trouser string tying northerners* I was told of when at school in London were not true? Really? Good heavens above! I can scarcely credit it!
*For the benefit of American readers, the "oop north" I am referring to here is the area above the big bump in the east coast - to the left of the sea, silly. An area that is about the size of the Netherlands - or slightly less than twice the size of New Jersey, according to the [URL="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nl.html"]CIA[/URL].
.[/quote]
Hey goombah - leave Noo Joisey out of this... I got some [I]real[/I] good friends there! :tongue:
:laughs:
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[quote=Carole B;100699]Hey goombah - leave Noo Joisey out of this... I got some [I]real[/I] good friends there! :tongue:
:laughs:[/quote]Gabeeshhh. Ma. Ma... I have some new good friends in Catania now. I hope...
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[quote=Carole B;100699]Hey goombah - leave Noo Joisey out of this... I got some [I]real[/I] good friends there! :tongue:
:laughs:[/quote]
And I grew up in New Jersey!:winki:
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Here's a little film that fits nicely into WHY DO? [url=http://tcc.itc.it/people/rocchi/fun/europe.html]Europe[/url]
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Ah it's nice Noble but it has already been posted alas.
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Well something for the new memebers perhaps Sally?
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True and sorry Noble
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[quote=Noble;100764]Here's a little film that fits nicely into WHY DO? [url=http://tcc.itc.it/people/rocchi/fun/europe.html]Europe[/url][/quote]
Hi Noble
I had never seen it before, the mutts mate,
They should show on all flights into the country, far better then the safety video,
cheers
Why do - Italians love football (calcio)?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 12:40In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[B]Why do - Italians love football (calcio)?
[/B]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_qe2LLnqT4&feature=channel[/ame]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Thanks, Carole. The clip by "Marcello Mastrantonioni" was amusing, not least because I hate [I]calcio[/I] too.
I just watched another of his YouTube films: "Italian Hand Gestures Explained". The signs for [I]buono[/I] and [I]furbo[/I] I'd seen before, but I'd never come across the gesture to indicate "he sleeps with chickens". :bigergrin:
More seriously, the clips seem to me quite good for a purpose highlighted in another current thread. While there is a fair amount of fake ambient noise on a loop and "Marcello" does affect a louche tone, I think his enunciation is quite clear and his monologue is composed mainly of simple statements, so the English subtitles I've seen so far are direct translations rather than the paraphrases you sometimes get in films.
Al
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I had a look at the one you suggested Allan but didn't notice the one for "buono" Is that not the rather cute one when said by a small child touching the side of his/her cheek beside the mouth???
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[quote=Sally Donaldson;100806]I had a look at the one you suggested Allan but didn't notice the one for "buono" Is that not the rather cute one when said by a small child touching the side of his/her cheek beside the mouth???[/quote]
Yes: pointing gesture with forefinger, touch cheek with fingertip and rotate hand a couple of times.
Al
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Quote....By: Nardini "....It's just poor breeding, CaroleB. Obviously. No one with any knowledge of etiquette would dream of doing such a thing. They must all be northerners, that you have witnessed doing such a thing. Buttering both halves of your roll, indeed. It beggars belief what some people will do...
Nardini
WHY DO you, as per your quote above, assume that people who cut their bread and butter both sides are northerners???
Maralyn
County Durham
And I break my bread and use no butter...........Unquote
Sorry, haven't been on this board for some time but would like to add that I was replying with a cheeky grin at the same time but forgot to put the little round man on with the grin to say so.
Oh yes, I know I was sort of defending northerners in my reply, and I do live in the beautiful city of Durham but.............I'm a Londoner!!!!
Maralyn
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[quote=Nardini;100188]It's just poor breeding, CaroleB. Obviously. No one with any knowledge of etiquette would dream of doing such a thing. They must all be northerners, that you have witnessed doing such a thing. Buttering both halves of your roll, indeed. It beggars belief what some people will do...[/quote]
It's cos we were so poor growing up we couldn't afford butter so later in life when we ventured to the rich & civilised kingdom of the South where butter was freely available we didn't know what to do with it!!!:bigergrin:
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Coo you must have been posh Helen, we were bought up on bread and dripping!, I shudder to think of it now, but as a child it was a treat!
A
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[quote=HelenMW;101242]It's cos we were so poor growing up we couldn't afford butter so later in life when we ventured to the rich & civilised kingdom of the South where butter was freely available we didn't know what to do with it!!!:bigergrin:[/quote]
Oh how wrong can you be....:laughs:
I was born and bred near Worthing - [I][U]nearly[/U][/I] (before :tongue: anyone 'nit picks') as far south as you can get on the English mainland, and [I][U]we[/U][/I] didn't have butter. Come to that we didn't have much of anything...
Bread and scrape (margarine) - if we were lucky. Bread and dripping if we weren't (though [I]that[/I] is still my favourite)! If you had marge on the bread, you didn't have jam (home made and often without sugar), and when there was nothing to put on a slice of bread you toasted it and [I]pretended[/I] [U]that[/U] was the treat - hot bread!
Nah :nah: you young 'uns don't have [I]any[/I] idea of what 'making ends meet' [B][I]really[/I][/B] means...
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[QUOTE=Carole B;101251] Bread and scrape (margarine) - if we were lucky. If you had marge on the bread, you didn't have jam (home made and often without sugar), and when there was nothing to put on a slice of bread you toasted it and [I]pretended[/I] [U]that[/U] was the treat - hot bread!
We had bread, margarine and sugar on top as a treat, so perhaps that's why I went on to learn the niceties of folding napkins correctly and where to seat guests at the dinner table! Here in Italy we hang on to our knife and fork at meals and never ever eat margarine!
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[quote=Noble;101252][QUOTE=Carole B;101251] Bread and scrape (margarine) - if we were lucky. If you had marge on the bread, you didn't have jam (home made and often without sugar), and when there was nothing to put on a slice of bread you toasted it and [I]pretended[/I] [U]that[/U] was the treat - hot bread!
We had bread, margarine and sugar on top as a treat, so perhaps that's why I went on to learn the niceties of folding napkins correctly and where to seat guests at the dinner table! Here in Italy we hang on to our knife and fork at meals and never ever eat margarine![/quote]
Are you (maybe) suggesting that I haven't evolved quite to the level you have?
Perish the thought... my knuckles haven't touched the floor for nearly 65 years.
[IMG]http://www.superiorlabels.com/images/black_whiteclipart/animal/monkey/4355625.jpg[/IMG]
I'll have you know I was 'drug up' in an [I]entirely[/I] civilised manner, and just 'cos I chose the wrong damned 'clip' to show a 'morsel of bread' and showed soup - when speaking of butter - everyone now thinks that I am the epitome of gauche! :eeeek:
HA! WELL I'M NOT!!!! (so there :tongue: )
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[quote=Carole B;101255]
Perish the thought... my knuckles haven't touched the floor for nearly 65 years.
[/quote]
You must have had extraordinarily long arms as a toddler :bigergrin::bigergrin::bigergrin:
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No offence intended CaroleB, I find you most articulate and my OH has a fascination for Apes, and studies showing how very similar thay are to us humans....we have a shelf full of the latest books on the subject!
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[quote=Charles Phillips;101261]You must have had extraordinarily long arms as a toddler :bigergrin::bigergrin::bigergrin:[/quote]
short legs, more likely!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
And what about condensed milk sandwiches?
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In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Forget the bread and butter. Condensed milk straight from the can!!!
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You people have too much time onyour hands.
Obviously you'd have to get a throne in for the QM and the Pope would spend most of his time on his knees wouldn't he ??
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[quote=alan h;101289]short legs, more likely![/quote]
LOL - both wrong... :rollingeyes: that was when I was crawling... and I don't do that to, or for [I][U]anyone[/U][/I] nowadays!
I am as I am... and that's that!
[IMG]http://www.joysandsorrows.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/SmileyHide.gif[/IMG]
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Have you noticed that under that cute yellow creature flipping the sofa backand forth Carole is the headline 5 Tips for a flat stomach??????????????
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Too much time Noble!, too much time!
A:smile:
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Yep true, still waiting for the boiler engineer to arrive....been along day as couldn't garden!
It's just poor breeding, CaroleB. Obviously. No one with any knowledge of etiquette would dream of doing such a thing. They must all be northerners, that you have witnessed doing such a thing. Buttering both halves of your roll, indeed. It beggars belief what some people will do...