10723 Buying a car advice.

Hi all,

I know the rules about residency etc in relation to buying a car in Italy but here's a question...

I will be spending 8 months in Italy next year and I will be applying for residency when there. I will be over there next week to sort out a few things for next year, but I'm told that I cant apply for residency then as the Commune will check over a 3 to 4 week period after I apply to make sure that I am indeed living there, so obviously, I must wait until I am there permanentaly.

But...I have recently seen a car that I would like to buy now. I have money agreed with the garage selling. Can an EU citizen under ANY circumstance buy a car in Italy without residency papers? Is there some paperwork that you can sign stating you'll have residency in the near future??? What about on the basis of exporting the car from Italy? Or am I clutching at straws and drowning in beaurocracy?

Thanks in advance...

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Legal

Hi Ronan,

Didn't know you are also a member of this forum, it's quite good, especially at getting legal advice etc., Will be over there on 27th Dec. for a week if you are around.
Good luck with the car........
Talk soon
Annette

I bought a car 7 mnths before my residency was granted.

MargaretM is there more to your story? Where you staying with family memebers and so were able to persuade the seller that you lived there...I do know people who are not resident, that have bought new cars in Italy but they had to prove that they owned a property here...the traffic fines have to be sent to your Italian home address, even if it just a holiday home! You don't have to be RESIDENT but in the Perugia area it seems that if the car is to be in your name you must own a property and be able to prove it.

I didn't own a property, we were in the very very long process of buying (that's another story), but were living in the property under private agreement with the owner. We just put that address on the paperwork. I had a Codice Fiscale though.

Technically you must be resident to buy a car - the passage of beni mobili require that, even though its simpler than it was. Domicile isnt enough - looks like Margarets official let her slip through the net without checking her paperwork. But how did you insure the car if you weren't resident?

Insured it at a local insurance brokers. Both the car dealer and the insurance broker were well aware I wasn't officially resident.

But how would it work if you were in the UK or elsewher and saw in a mag or on the internet, a car that you liked and wanted to buy it to export to your own country? Surely you don't have to become an Italian resident to do that?

[quote=Ronan;100036]But how would it work if you were in the UK or elsewher and saw in a mag or on the internet, a car that you liked and wanted to buy it to export to your own country? Surely you don't have to become an Italian resident to do that?[/quote]

No - but you do need to be to register the car in Italy

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My car was registered to me, at the address I was (and still am) living at.

Who's right?
I have a client who has residency and who wants to buy a car. The sbriga pratica is insisting that they must have a carta di soggiorno aswell. the decree of Feb 2007 which abolished the requirement of the carta di soggiorno for European citizens we have both read, and he intereprets it differently. As the carta di soggiorno is not a mandatory requirement, can they insist on it being acquired? With the new laws on residency, the carta di soggiorno and the residency permit surely amount to exactly the same document? Can anyone point me in the direction of a document that i can brandish in their faces to demonstrate they are talking nonsense?

Just to answer my own post which possibly may help others. I finally spoke to the head of the PRA - who accepted that:. a European citizen has no need of a carta di soggiorno for anything if they have residence, as one cancels the other out. The carta di soggiorno became voluntary in March 2007, and noone has the right to demand it.