ok so it's answered here
Submitted by stevegwmonkseaton on Fri, 08/06/2010 - 11:50
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
in this post... http://www.italymag.co.uk/community/post/buying-car-italy-when-we-are-not-spending-6-months-year-italy Just my original search did not find it 
