10984 Belle Arti

Penny

We bought an old chestnut drying house (Castagna) in the Lucca area which has to please the Belle Arte at Pisa, as well as the local commune. They are very definite about what they will or won't allow. For example, no external shutters, no solar panels on roof. no balconies. This is in order to make the replacement in keeping with the original building - which was never intended for habitiation. Our Geometra is well up on their rules and neither we, or he, try to fight it. Apparently they are not for turning. Having said that, our permission was granted a couple of years ago and it is possible that rules might change over time. The resulting house, which is about to have windows and doors fitted, fits beautifully into the landscape and is very pretty.

Good luck with your project.

Fabbriche

[quote=Penny;103397]Does anyone have any experience of buying and renovating a house under a vincolo from the Belle Arti?

Any clues as to what work you can do and what you can't. For example, decorating, new windows, heating systems etc.

Anyone got any experience of how long it takes to get the appropriate permissions from them?

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some buildings can not be altered inside,some outside some both.i used to know a company in milan who rented a premesis which was unchangeable inside so in the end they had to move.In monte san martino there is a large palazzo in the square which was bought and rennovated by local people but in the main "room" about 6 metres high with a vaulted ceiling with affreschi they were not even allowed to put in heating.It seems very much to depend under which sovrintindenza the building is sited,what it was and at the end their decision.i'm sure a decent geometra could find something out for you but then again that would probably mean paying for something you're not even sure you want/can buy..good luck anyway and let me know i'm interested in this.

I would be very interested to see an example, Any photos you can upload Fabbriche???

Our watermill falls into the same category described by Fabbriche and you cannot alter the appearance of it, which is fine with us. They allow you to change windows and doors without enlarging the size of them but you have to obtain permits from Belle Arti and local council. Fortunately, windows and doors had been already changed by the previous owner so we did not have to go through all this. Be sure to use professionals and to comply with all regulations and restrictions.

Will attempt to send some pictures later.

I forgot to say that it took nearly two years to get permission - but think that was because it was changing use of property and hence setting a precedent for similar properties in the area.

Regards

Fabbriche

Thanks to everyone - any info is helpful.

I'll tell you all about it if it comes off Sebatiano :wink: Have to sell my house first though so in the current climate that might be eaiser said than done but we very much want the house.

Well against the advise from my painter, I insisted I wanted the grey stone window sills painted (OK, I'm a philistine) on my house as there is no relievo on the facade and I wanted it to stand out a bit more against the main colour.
When the muratore and geometra saw it they went bananas screaming 'who did I think I was' and I wasn't allowed to do just what I wanted because of tradition and Belle Arte, etc.
Does Belle Arte even know I have renovated and do they check up?
Might I be fined thousands and ordered to put everything back as it was? :eeeek: