11137 Residency

good evening
we have recently completed renovating our farmhouse in Le Marche, which is between Force and Comunanza. We intend to move permantenly to Italy within the next year.
i have spent a couple of hours reading through the numerous threads about obtaining residency and sadly feel even more confused ( I'm sure this is to do with me rather than people's efforts to clarify this) Could someone provide me with a simple explanation, if this is possible??
Should we start the process now? We have Italian bank accounts and codice and the deads to our house. We currently spend about 4 days per month along with longer holidays in Italy.
We intend only to return to the UK for the occasional holiday once we move.
any advice would be gratefully appreciated

Donald

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Legal

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 01:49

Donald,

Congratulations on completing your project. If I was to go through the process again.............I would [B][U]DEFINITELY[/U][/B] get a local Italian speaking person (who 'knows' [B][U]YOUR[/U][/B] Comune's interpretation of the rules), to do the paperwork for you.
It is a soul destroying experience and for the sake of paying someone 50euros or so, it'll save you WEEKS of frustrating effort !

Good luck!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 03:59

Hi Donald and congratulations on the completion. There is a useful link from the Italian Government regarding residency and permits which is in English:
[url=http://www.portaleimmigrazione.it/]PORTALE IMMIGRAZIONE - Automazione Permessi/Carte di Soggiorno[/url]
It also contains forms, etc. so that you may become acquainted with them.
I would also contact the nearest Italian Consulate to check with them whether to get from them some certificates, etc. Sometimes this helps a lot when trying to deal with the authorities in Italy.
Best wishes

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 04:22

Hi Donald and congratulations on choosing a very lovely area.

You don't mention how long you've owned the house or whether you paid the lower (Prima Casa) rate of tax when you bought it, but it might be worth mentioning that if you did pay the lower rate, you only have 18 months to apply, or they will hit you with fine for the higher rate of tax.

In any case, you should apply as soon as possible, but only when you intend to be there for a week or two at a time, because you will get a visit from Vigili to confirm that you are actually living there. Be prepared to produce as much evidence of health cover and a healthy bank balance as you can.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 15:30

many thanks to you all, yes we feel we have achieved something very special albeit it felt like an emotional roller coaster at times. The builders and geometra have been great although pricey at times but the quality of their work has been excellent. They also completed the work within the agreed time scales. Now that the farmhouse is completed we have started the conversion of the barn and swimming pool so the process couldn't have been that bad either that or we are mad!!!
we chose to pay the higher rate of tax as we didn't want to get caught out and were unsure how long the renovation would take, so thankfully we don't need to worry about that.
I think we will start the process of applying for residency when we are next across for a 2 week holiday.
donald

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 16:16

You can self-certify your income. Don't be fobbed off by the anagrafe office. You are entitled to do that. There are lots of posts on here explaining the E106 for health cover so you shouldn't have any problems.

Not sure why you'd need your residency before you live here though?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 17:17

I agree, I don't see why there's any rush to apply for residency until you actually move there - unless you're trying to secure resident rates on your electricity etc. It took us about 30 minutes to apply for residency this summer in the Anagrafe office - most of which was taken by the helpful staff-member filling in multiple forms on his computer. Then we went away and came back 2 weeks later as instructed (allowing for the police visit - who we never saw.) That return visit to the Anagrafe was 5 minutes long and we left with ID cards. Couldn't have been simpler.

We had E106s, passports, proof of income (last tax return) & our Italian address. We didn't need anything else apart from 4 passport photos.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 00:36

many thanks for responses, sounds like it shouldn't be that complicated and no need to do prematurely?
Donald

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 04:04

Hi Donald, I think it makes a difference where you are taking up residency. In our experience, things changed a lot last year with some of our guests that move here. Its also necessary to have things like medical insurance as well as proof of income and the police certainly do visit here. I think its better to officially get the right information before you make your decision.

warm regards
Pam