In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Is this a not so heavily disguised avert for Avv. Giandomenico De Tullio???
As it is his first post I hope Cristiana has spotted this???
We did promise to be vigilant when such liberties where taken! Perhaps his name should also be removed by the Moderator?
Post by DeTullio
Submitted by Sposatl on Thu, 06/26/2014 - 22:07I actually think he provided information that could be beneficial to someone buying or selling property in Italy.Didn't see a phone or email . This is an information site,
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Noble I reported this about ten minutes ago via the red triangle hence Tuscanhill's deletion of my post. There were direct links and e-mail address.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
This thread provides a good opportunity to point out one of the pitfalls of the property buying system in Italy; in step 1 you are not making an offer to test whether the buyer is willing to sell at a particular price, you are committing yourself, probably without having seen documentation or any structural survey, to buying the house and the vendor has your deposit, not an independent third party.
I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation of how this stage differs at all from the the next stage - the '[i]contratto preliminare di vendita[/i]' and I usually advise my clients to proceed directly to the [i]contratto preliminare[/i], once evidence of the ownership and structural soundness of the house has been presented.
The words say it all; if the 'contratto preliminare' is preliminary, why is it not the first step and if the proposal is irrevocable why is it not termed a contract?!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
When I was working for an agent, there would often be a lot of exceptions/conditions put into the proposta which the vendor would not countenance in the preliminary contract. Things like subject to mortgage being approved or satisfactory inspection by an engineer etc.
In our case a token sum cheque (e.g. €3k or €5k) would be written by the prospective purchaser and held by the agent. The vendor only got it once the preliminary contract was signed. In fact usually, the cheque was destroyed and the full deposit paid at the preliminary contract.
Although I take your point that it is a legally binding contract if both parties sign it.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Surely a short guide to advertising your services, and wrong on several counts!
You will NOT be automatically asked to sign a proposta d'acquisto if you buy through an agent.
'This is why he cannot be a substitute for a solicitor in the defence of the interests of the buyer. The only way to be assured of total impartiality is to engage the services of an independent solicitor' - And how independent can a solicitor be if he is acting solely in the interests of the buyer? This is a long advert placed by a lawyer trying to get some business. A decent agent, and a good notiao mean that you are paying a lawyer to do very little other than duplicate their work.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=ram;111162]Surely a short guide to advertising your services, and wrong on several counts!
................... This is a long advert placed by a lawyer trying to get some business. A decent agent, and a good notiao mean that you are paying a lawyer to do very little other than duplicate their work.[/quote]
I agree entirely with ram on this.
On the advice of my Italian friends, who all told me that they wouldn't use a lawyer/solicitor unless it was an unusual house that they were buying [define 'unusual'?], I did not use a lawyer/solicitor for the purchase of my holiday place in Italy.
I had a good estate agent [with moderate ability in English] who took me gently through the property purchase process successfully. He also arranged my Codice Fiscale [took me to the office and did all the talking], and arranged my bank account and the direct debits for gas and electricity.
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This is a first post from an Estate Agent David. This information can be got from any Estate Agent's website. However you are the Moderator.