2710 Those cartoons

[QUOTE=sdoj]I was fed up with the newspaper coverage in the Italian papers and wondered where in the British press I would find a fresh angle and of course - The Gruaniad never lets you down:
[I][COLOR="Blue"]Robert Gibson quotes Nietzsche on religious interpretations: "Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power not truth." The publishing of the cartoons in a Danish newspaper was an act of power...perhaps it is time for the...liberal establishment to consider more carefully whether that which is done in the nature of...right is nothing more than a flagrant abuse of power.[/COLOR][/I][/QUOTE]

I read a very interesting commentary on this issue in a local paper yesterday - will share here next week. I do believe it gives the correct perspective on the whole situation, taking into account the situation in Denmark and the reaction of the Islamic world.

[QUOTE=Sano]I read a very interesting commentary on this issue in a local paper yesterday - will share here next week. I do believe it gives the correct perspective on the whole situation, taking into account the situation in Denmark and the reaction of the Islamic world.[/QUOTE]

Sano,

Did you use the newspaper instead of the bidet?

:D :D

[QUOTE=Sano]I read a very interesting commentary on this issue in a local paper yesterday - will share here next week. I do believe it gives the correct perspective on the whole situation, taking into account the situation in Denmark and the reaction of the Islamic world.[/QUOTE]

Private Eye was spot on last week about all this... funnily enough none of the major papers dare go politically incorrect... no surprise there then!

It's all well orchestrated... a very sad sign of the times that everyone's in uproar and nobody is interested in what it was all about in the first place ...

I've only seen one of the cartoons, but I thought it was absolutely hilarious!

At the time.. I had no idea who the man portrayed was supposed to be.. but wonder how anyone knows what Prophet Mohammed was supposed to have looked like anyway.. if no image of him exists!

:) :)

[QUOTE=Iona]Private Eye was spot on last week about all this... funnily enough none of the major papers dare go politically incorrect... no surprise there then!

It's all well orchestrated... a very sad sign of the times that everyone's in uproar and nobody is interested in what it was all about in the first place ...[/QUOTE]

i confess i haven't seen them, or know what it was about....anychance of
being enlightened?:)

Ooer Gianni..

Even Aliena hasn't got the cheek to display the cartoon I saw here.. not that I don't think its funny.. just that Ronny might get his bum smacked and we don't want that.. or do we? :D

:) :)

Let's get real here...as the song says "you can't argue with a man, with a shotgun in his hand"

...there's going to be trouble...big trouble...and anyone who has studied hirstory......oh.......yahwey...

Do we get a prize Tinks? ;)

:) :)

[QUOTE=Aliena]Ooer Gianni..

Even Aliena hasn't got the cheek to display the cartoon I saw here.. not that I don't think its funny.. just that Ronny might get his bum smacked and we don't want that.. or do we? :D

:) :)[/QUOTE]

i didn't mean that i wanted to see the cartoons, but wanted to know in what
context they had been used, ie was it just a dig? or were there other reasons
for their use?

[QUOTE=Aliena]Do we get a prize Tinks? ;)

:) :)[/QUOTE]

what do you want.....peace on earth??/

Nihilo nisi cruce (I'm allowed - family motto stuff :))

So would it be the Nobel.. or are you just trying to Pulizter the other one?

:) :)

[quote=Aliena]So would it be the Nobel.. or are you just trying to Pulizter the other one?

:) :)[/quote]

Me thinks a bag with a gold fish in for each of you - Howzat?

Giovanni,

Here's what I read... Haven't seen the cartoons, by the way.

Apparently (!!) they were part of a competition for drawings for a kiddies book on the religion... not sure how true that is but it would explain some things... though it still seems that someone was taking the proverbial...

However, a couple of other drawings were apparently (!!) later added to that collection by some who wanted to stir up trouble and taken to countries where they knew they'd cause offence ... and those pics weren't even Danish!!

Well, given that the original prints didn't cause much of a stir back last year, the backlash now is incredible. Hope they all calm down soon... :(

After all, we can see the funny side in Christian jokes...

Giovanni, nip into WH Smith, grab the Private Eye with Tony and Gordon in a heart on the front, shuffle down the row a little and find P.6... very illuminating... ;)

Aha, just as we suspected. Dane's aren't known for their cracking wit...;)

[QUOTE=Wishful Thinker]Let's get real here...as the song says "you can't argue with a man, with a shotgun in his hand"

...there's going to be trouble...big trouble...and anyone who has studied hirstory......oh.......yahwey...[/QUOTE]

Dya see what went off at Bondi a while back ... is that why they call Oz God's own country?

Cronulla. Southern burbs, not eastern...

Beirut was well known as the Paris of the Middle East.. quite beautiful and now very slowly regaining a little of its previous charm..

One famous night club was called the Crazy Horse.. and it certainly was!

:) :)

did they let crazy cows in then ? :)

'Twas a crazy cows Grandfather who owned it Tinks.. think interconnectedley.. do the research.. not so crazy eh?

:) :)

ah, didn't realise you meant before WWI. ;)

I didn't.. early to late 70's. Think Australian riots.. who rioted.. where they were from and.. hey presto.. you end up in Lebanon!

:) :)

Intersting also to note that the Premier of New South Wales one Morris Iemma , along with a lot of prominent politicians and sucessfull people there, also Lebanese.

Not, however, followers of the prophet ;)

[QUOTE=Wishful Thinker]Intersting also to note that the Premier of New South Wales one Morris Iemma , along with a lot of prominent politicians and sucessfull people there, also Lebanese.

Not, however, followers of the prophet ;)[/QUOTE]

funny that but the phoenicians came from there, great explorers,traders,
and founders of what we call writing! with an alphabet

Geo,

You are the fairest man on this forum - you always seem to hone in on the crux of an issue and come up with the fair and honest answer.

Solomon was a phoenecian was he not? do you mind if I call you Sol from now on Sol?

[QUOTE=sdoj]Geo,

You are the fairest man on this forum - you always seem to hone in on the crux of an issue and come up with the fair and honest answer.

Solomon was a phoenecian was he not? do you mind if I call you Sol from now on Sol?[/QUOTE]

lol, now i didn't know that solomon was phoenecian. if i am honest only came
across this fact when debating a few months ago, the losses of britishness.

ie the pound sign the mile, ect you know roman things....lol.

[QUOTE=giovanni]lol, now i didn't know that solomon was phoenecian. if i am honest only came
across this fact when debating a few months ago, the losses of britishness.

ie the pound sign the mile, ect you know roman things....lol.[/QUOTE]

I have a good argument for why stones, pounds and onuces are more practical for an itinerant market stall holder than are grammes and kilogrammes - anyone want to know the gruesome details?

[QUOTE=sdoj]I have a good argument for why stones, pounds and onuces are more practical for an itinerant market stall holder than are grammes and kilogrammes - anyone want to know the gruesome details?[/QUOTE]

Go on then and then i'll tell you why the imperial system is bad for scientific development and the adverse effect the imperial system had on one of the joint missions to Mars.

Andy

(Or is it just you can stick chewing gum under the old mechanical imperial scales, meaning you don't have to give people what they pay for?)

Solomon (Sol) mate, please tell us (me)...where are the mines? ;)

Salt or coal Tinks?

:) :)

Ophir, gord's sake...

Sheikh Yemani around in a circle then!

Eh up Tinks.. we gotta get a prize for this one! I wonder who got it?

:) :)

speaking of salt, I brought some salt fish back from my last sojourn. What do you recommend?

[QUOTE=Wishful Thinker]speaking of salt, I brought some salt fish back from my last sojourn. What do you recommend?[/QUOTE]

Have a defibrillator on hand when eating it...

Soak sad salty fish overnight in lots and lots of cold water.. it might revive it and with a bit of luck it will swim away.. if it is truly dead then you may as well use it.

loadsa onions tomatoes garlic.. chop/slice then saute/fry in olive oil til squidgey.. add a bit of water to make even more juicey so you can dunk crusty bread.. NO salt (duh!) loads of fresh black pepper then fling fish in (flake it first you nerd) poach in the juices for a few minutes.. fling a handful of flat leaf parsley over it.. et voila!

That'll be fifty quid please Sir!

:) :)

cinquanta di queste?

I have eaten Baccalà cooked in dozens of different ways and not just in Italy. In Portugal they call it bacalhau and consider it the national dish alongside cozido (beef and cabbage).

By far the best recipe comes from my beloved Tuscany:

Baccalà alla Livornese(Tuscany) -Leghorn-Style Salt Cod

Leghorn (Livorno) was a small village in 1575 when the famous de' Medici family of Florence decided they needed a more reliable port than the one they were using at Pisa. They commissioned an architect to lay out a new city on a grid plan. In gastronomic terms, Leghorn was later renowned for its fish stew, red mullet, and salt cod. The cod all came from the North Atlantic and was salted on the fishing ships themselves or on nearby land in Newfoundland, Greenland, or Iceland, while some cod was air-dried in Norway.
The trade then shipped the salted cod directly to the Mediterranean or overland through France. In fact, Marseilles absorbed half of the French purchase of dried cod and reexported part of it to Italy. Salt cod is a popular food along the northern Mediterranean and after you make this recipe you will see why. All kinds of things can be done with salt cod ranging, from the salt cod with sour cherries recipe of the noted Italian cookbook writer Ada Boni to the batter-fried salt cod with skordalia sauce of Greece.

If you have any remaining sauce, it can be used with spaghetti or cooked chickpeas. If you desire, and it is quite nice, this dish can be served at room temperature.

1 cup pure or virgin or extra virgin olive oil

1 small onion, thinly sliced

1 large garlic clove, finely chopped

1 large ripe tomato (about 3/4 pound), peeled, seeded and chopped

5 large fresh basil leaves
2 tablespoons finely chopped fresh parsley leaves

Salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste

1 pound salt cod, prepared for cooking and cut into 4 x 6-inch pieces

All-purpose flour for dredging

1. In a medium-size casserole, heat 1/4 cup of the olive oil over medium-high heat, then cook the onion until translucent, about 4 minutes, stirring a few times. Add half the garlic, the tomato, basil, and 1 tablespoon of the parsley, season with salt (salt lightly because the salt cod might still have some remaining saltiness) and pepper, reduce the heat to low and cook until the sauce is denser, about 20 minutes.

2. Meanwhile, dredge the fish in the flour, patting off any excess. In a large skillet, heat the remaining 3/4 cup olive oil over medium heat, then cook the salt cod with the remaining garlic until golden, turning carefully with a fork and spatula, about 12 to 15 minutes for thick pieces, 8 to 10 minutes for thinner pieces and 4 to 6 minutes for very thin pieces. Remove the fish, transfer to the tomato sauce, and cook for 10 minutes. Sprinkle with the remaining tablespoon parsley and serve.

Note: Cook the salt cod in batches so you don't crowd the pan. The recipe can easily be doubled.

Makes 2 to 4 servings

and there's us thinkin you only eat pie and mash ;)

mebbe u an Aliena see eye-t-eye after all ;)

Aye - Thailand, Goan, yeah Siam ;)

Ennery de eighph awwight.. orf wiv 'is ead!

:) :)

are you the Queen of Hearts? (or should that be tarts?) ;)

Duntcha know dat de famuly name iz di P'Aragon?

Strawberry or lemon curd?

:) :)