2790 telephone installation?

You need to have a hollow plastic tube ('corrugato') of about 6cm in diameter buried in the ground leading from the foot of the last telephone pole to where you want the cable to enter the house. Its readily available at builders merchants in a variety of sizes. If you're going any distance, or turning corners, then put some little manholes ('pozzetti') in the route as well as at the beginning and end. The tubes come with a wire down the middle which is used for pulling the cable through - be careful not to lose the end!

A man with a Bobcat will dig you a trench for about €40/hour. (Don't try doing it yourself unless you have a masochistic streak) When that's in, Telecom will come and run their cable down. Its well worth doing for the end result, a pole-free view, but any breaks you sustain will be your responsibility to repair, so if its going under a field, be sure to bury it deep or take a long way round.

Or get Satellite ADSL and use VOIP, thereby bypassing Telecom altogether?

My husband would love to have the excuse to hire a Bobcat again but we will pursue the "getting someone in to do it" route. Just hope it won't cost a fortune!
I wonder if the charge of 576 euros for our connection will still apply if we do all the work?
Still we already have a telephone number and that must have some value!!?
Thanks for the advice anyway

[QUOTE=Marc] The tubes come with a wire down the middle which is used for pulling the cable through - be careful not to lose the end![/QUOTE]

Also might be a good idea to pull through another line _with_ the cable, in case you ever need to pull anything else through.

[QUOTE=s.love]I wonder if the charge of 576 euros for our connection will still apply if we do all the work?[/QUOTE]

I'm afraid that I think it will. The charge is for the cable and the poles, but I'm not sure that the system is clever enough to factor-in taking the poles out of the equation. If you could find someone to supply the cable (only Telecom's own will do though) maybe you could beat the system by asking them simply to connect it up at each end.

[QUOTE=s.love]Also might be a good idea to pull through another line _with_ the cable, in case you ever need to pull anything else through.[/QUOTE]

Good idea! Even a length of rope or string could be useful.

[QUOTE=s.love]Or get Satellite ADSL and use VOIP, thereby bypassing Telecom altogether?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure that this would work. The usual service ('Alice Sat') is unidirectional in that your computer downloads at lightening speed from the satellite, but you still rely on a conventional telephone line for sending messages back to the satellite and sending emails.

[QUOTE=Marc]

I'm not sure that this would work. The usual service ('Alice Sat') is unidirectional in that your computer downloads at lightening speed from the satellite, but you still rely on a conventional telephone line for sending messages back to the satellite and sending emails.[/QUOTE]
Really?? I thought there was also a bidirectional sat you could get...I haven't looked into it though...

[QUOTE=gardahomes]Really?? I thought there was also a bidirectional sat you could get...I haven't looked into it though...[/QUOTE]

no, from my research it was only unidirectional. hence useless for me as I need to upload stuff to the company server which is impossible on a dialup modem. Best alternative for me: ISDN (tariff: Teleconomia Internet). not bad at all and also much cheaper than Satellite DSL :)

[QUOTE=gardahomes]Really?? I thought there was also a bidirectional sat you could get...I haven't looked into it though...[/QUOTE]

I have looked into this, it's very expemsive.
It's seems to be more for business users, moving large amounts of data.

Update. We have dug our trench, (well, someone dug it for 500 euros and a days work for three people) laid the cable and are now waiting for Telecom to do their bit. At the moment we are very pleased that our views will remain pole free, but still a bit more to do and we do have a trench running through the garden which we will have fill...........

I dont know the distance between the man holes - but you can get an electricians draw cable - which is a wound up strip of metal - that is possible to push some distance - - - so if the cable idea fails for any reason make sure you know how long the longest one u can by in the UK...

[QUOTE=GlenB]I dont know the distance between the man holes - but you can get an electricians draw cable - which is a wound up strip of metal - that is possible to push some distance - - - so if the cable idea fails for any reason make sure you know how long the longest one u can by in the UK...[/QUOTE]
No once the trench was done no manholes telecom came and put in the cables to the house.Bythe way the installation charge is around Euro 200 even if you're in a town house with no work to do,probably for you they had to put in posts to a certain point...you're lucky to have had it done now in a few years stuff like this will cost a fortune...
and don't tell me its cheap in the uk a scottish person who came here asked me about my 25kw electricity supply which was put in ad hoc for which we paid Euro 6.000,00 for a 3 km line,he paid Sterling 15.000,00 for a 1 mile connection with a 25 kw supply!!

we seem to have telecome, Voip, adsl using Alice - but when we move I dont think that broadband reaches the house. How do I connect through a satelite??? sorry to be so foolish janetta

You aren't being foolish Janetta, the best bet may be to contact Alice's help desk, if you're happy with their service, I believe they run a satelite system too.

Don't think you are foolish - just hope you are very rich if you want to use a sat based system!!!

If a phone line reaches the house (and you know the number, or even the number of a neighbour), you can easily check whether ADSL is available by entering that number somewhere on the [url]www.187.it[/url] site, where you are offered the opportunity to find out the disponibilita.

We have been paying Alice for ADSL (so they must have thought that we were within the zone to receive it).

During the 10 weeks we spent in Italy this year, I think we had 3 days (not consecutive) when the ADSL actually worked - and then only after a friend rang and complained about it. So I am very interested in anyone who is using satellite.

Is it (reasonably) reliable or weather dependant?

What are the ballpark costs?

Many thanks

what about a charge of 660E for 1 m of cable to enter the house - and then the phone still does not work. Electrician at fault; no telecome at fault and was told to f... o.. the other day over the phone - using the mobile of course. we do have a vodafone box attached to the computer but is is like watching paint day to use and sometimes just doesnt work... thrid world here we are. We are told that 2007 is to be all change as far as emails are concerned. I could write a book about telecome...