2806 English Dialects

Shall have to ask my colleagues Danesh and Nazeed here to translate...their from the east end..:)

Pony......

[QUOTE=tuscanhills]Pony......[/QUOTE]

Pony? That'll be £25

Lady Godiva? That'll be £5
Monkey? That'll be £500
Grand? that'll be £1,000

Anyone know what a Commodore is?

Andy

No, as in I meant "pony" as in "trap"

I agree with the pony and t*** comment but if certain people think that Liverpool's "bikkie" qualifies as a dialect then so does cockney rhyming slang but in truth the only recognised dialect in England is Geordie.

I for one, coudn't give a tinkers...

I married a Leigh lad and get a load of em together I may as well be back in Italy, cos I can't understand a flamin word.

BLACKBERRYIN'
By Alice Miller

Ther gooin' a-blackberryin' while its still leet,
Eawer Thomas's lass an' t'others;
A laughighin' an' sheawtin' an' thrutchin' abeawt--
T'big lasses wi' ther teeny brothers!

Ther's a fresh nip in th'air, as its near on back end;
Too cowd, aye, to my way of thinkin':
But ther's berries galore, an, ther rare 'uns fer t'dish,
Near th'hedges, in t'late sun black-winkin'!

O, the fawse as they mek um these childther uv eawrs;
Wi' ther baskets an pikin an skrikin':
Fer it's nobbut a 'secuse to dil-dally in t' dusk--
T'tame fireside's nod yet to ther likin'!

;) :rolleyes: :p

There is a story circulating in the North of England about a Southerner who had a road accident in Newcastle with a Geordie lad driving the other car, the southerner then spent three years trying to find an insurance company called Haddaway and Shytmann...

[QUOTE=GeorgeS]There is a story circulating in the North of England about a Southerner who had a road accident in Newcastle with a Geordie lad driving the other car, the southerner then spent three years trying to find an insurance company called Haddaway and Shytmann...[/QUOTE]

Nice one, bonny lad
:D

Don't you fellows know the Queen's English? :)

God forbid the bar of soap to be a merchant banker! Call Percy thrower to get a steely dan on the floor for a bit of Posh and Becks and get rid of Pete Purvis, because there are no Sieg Heils as only Engineers and Stokers get Farmer Giles.

:) :)

Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun...

Which are you ALLEN?

Jezus, Even i don't know half of what ya on about! :D Na, I'll stick to Queens English wiv a souff east accent!

Tinks..

One is quite mad dear.. quite mad! 'Twas cockney slang.. would one like a translation? Hmm.. best not.. 'twould confuse the scholars amongst us.

Trulli..

Would that be like 'sarf' London? :D

:) :)

"I shouldn't want to go amongst mad people" said Alice.
"Oh you can't help that" said the Cheshire Cat "we're all mad here". :) :)

This is interesting..

Alienas accent probably sounds like a "England Forty-four".. what number does your accent sound like?

[url]http://www.ku.edu/~idea/europe/england/england.htm[/url]

:) :)

Seven.

Aha...the interconnectedness of things again...

Thirteeen - but without the posh bit.

Like they way there's a transcript on the right too :)

Lesley

[CENTER][CENTER][COLOR=black]Nearest for me is [/COLOR][COLOR=black]England[/COLOR][COLOR=black] forty two I spose. Got the feeling he stumbles with his words just like me![/COLOR][/CENTER]
[CENTER][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][/CENTER]
[CENTER][COLOR=black]My Grandmother was born in [/COLOR][COLOR=black]sussex[/COLOR][COLOR=black] and from what I remember she had quite a country yokel dialect but I think this has all been lost. Us South Easterners either sound as common as muck or terribly terribly posh! [/COLOR][/CENTER][/CENTER]

Am intrigued... ;)

Had the pleasure of trying to make sense of posh English in Kent/Surrey (1 1/2 yrs) ... on to broadest Aberdonian ... or Doric ... for 5 yrs (try arrange getting the lawn cut & flower beds done with a local gardener was great fun!) ... then trying to get used to Welsh from the 'valleys' (Glamorgan for 2 yrs) ... now in Edinburgh where folks are easy to understand!!! Phew!! :D

BTW, love a friend's accent... she's from Middlesbrough!!! :eek:

Och aye...

[QUOTE=Wishful Thinker]Don't you fellows know the Queen's English? :)[/QUOTE]

You fellows were asked in a referendum and decided to keep old Queenie on board so no back-sliding now ma boy.

No point in barking up that tree, Mr Stodge; the Cheshire Cat vanished some time ago. :)

Only referendum I've ever voted in was whether to have a mayor for London...they should have listened to me ;)

Dick Whittington and a Puss in Bootz spring to mind..

:D :D

You are not thinking of that New York Dolls track are you?

How does it go again? And now you're walkin' - just like you're ten feet tall - go ahead...

[QUOTE=Aliena]Dick Whittington and a Puss in Bootz spring to mind..

:D :D[/QUOTE]

There we go, getting all befuddled again....

Puss in Boots was lower than the most feral cat (he was *****), not ;)

The closest true English dialect we have in the States is in an isolated area where most immigrants arrived in the 1800s and didn't have much exposure to other cultures.

Appalachian English. It preserves many archaic features that date back to earlier stages in the development of English in Britain. Forms thought to be substandard today are actually the outmoded standard of yesterday. A good example is the use of double negatives such as 'not nobody.' Linguists have dubbed this variety of English as "American Old English" or "American Anglo Saxon". Other mountainous, relatively isolated areas of the American East show a similar preservation of archaic speech. Mario Pei, a popular writer on linguistics, said that "The speech of the Ozarks comes closer to Elizabethan English in many ways than the speech of modern London."

Main features--

--pronouns: hit (it), youns, (ye ones--Chaucer), (possessives) hisn, hern, yorn, theirn them used as an adjective in place of their; them boys.

--Retention of preposition in the progressive aspect: I'm a talking to you.

--propensity to use compound nouns: men-folk, man-child, kin folks

--exchanging parts of speech in comparison to standard English: It pleasures me, That was mighty fetchin' of you, She prettied herself up, I'll muscle it up (lift it up), He bigged her (made her pregnant); He daddied that child.

--Many colorful idioms. Slow as Christmas (slow in coming about), slick as a peeled onion (sly), His backbone's rubbin' his belly. (very hungry).

--fixin to, pert near, afeared, beholden (indebted), took sick, upped an, mess of (lot of)

--Rhyming euphemisms: swan, swanny = swear, land sakes alive, golly, dad blamed.

--Special distance words: This here, that there, that yonder.

--bag called sack; dragonfly called mosquito hawk, green bean called a snap bean; pail called a bucket.

Some southern features from the poorer classes are shared with the dialects of the rural midwest since poor southerners helped colonize the midwest. Also, some features of Appalachian English are shared with the speech of poorer southern whites for the same reason.

--ain't, use of double negatives--older "correct" version of English, avoided by the upper classes, who chose the innovative single negatives preferred by the British upper classes.

--ng = n: somethin, nothin, (also found in Scotch-Irish dialects of middle English: Celtic languages had no ng)

[QUOTE=greatscott]The closest true English dialect we have in the States is in an isolated area where most immigrants arrived in the 1800s and didn't have much exposure to other cultures.

Appalachian English. It preserves many archaic features that date back to earlier stages in the development of English in Britain. Forms thought to be substandard today are actually the outmoded standard of yesterday. A good example is the use of double negatives such as 'not nobody.' Linguists have dubbed this variety of English as "American Old English" or "American Anglo Saxon". Other mountainous, relatively isolated areas of the American East show a similar preservation of archaic speech. Mario Pei, a popular writer on linguistics, said that "The speech of the Ozarks comes closer to Elizabethan English in many ways than the speech of modern London."

Main features--

--pronouns: hit (it), youns, (ye ones--Chaucer), (possessives) hisn, hern, yorn, theirn them used as an adjective in place of their; them boys.

--Retention of preposition in the progressive aspect: I'm a talking to you.

--propensity to use compound nouns: men-folk, man-child, kin folks

--exchanging parts of speech in comparison to standard English: It pleasures me, That was mighty fetchin' of you, She prettied herself up, I'll muscle it up (lift it up), He bigged her (made her pregnant); He daddied that child.

--Many colorful idioms. Slow as Christmas (slow in coming about), slick as a peeled onion (sly), His backbone's rubbin' his belly. (very hungry).

--fixin to, pert near, afeared, beholden (indebted), took sick, upped an, mess of (lot of)

--Rhyming euphemisms: swan, swanny = swear, land sakes alive, golly, dad blamed.

--Special distance words: This here, that there, that yonder.

--bag called sack; dragonfly called mosquito hawk, green bean called a snap bean; pail called a bucket.

Some southern features from the poorer classes are shared with the dialects of the rural midwest since poor southerners helped colonize the midwest. Also, some features of Appalachian English are shared with the speech of poorer southern whites for the same reason.

--ain't, use of double negatives--older "correct" version of English, avoided by the upper classes, who chose the innovative single negatives preferred by the British upper classes.

--ng = n: somethin, nothin, (also found in Scotch-Irish dialects of middle English: Celtic languages had no ng)[/QUOTE]

Very interesting post. The double negative crops up in South African English from time to time as it is a common feature of Afrikaans, and people occasionally transfer the norms of the one language to the other.

Yes Sano a very interesting post by Greatscott - I think it was in Bill Bryson's Made in America that I read about the pronuciation of the word BATH: in Australia and southern England it is with a long "A" whereas in the north of England and the US it is with a short A.

Apparently at the time of the Mayflower and for a long time after bath had a short A everywhere but by the time James Cook sailed through the strait between Australia and New Guinea the good folk of southern England had decided a long A was better.

I guess the northerners and the Yanks didn't see any need to change - Sano how do they say bath in the Cape?

Gotten is another one ... considered archane in English English but used widely all across America and I have never heard a true blood Australian use it.

:D :) :D

SA - borth
Australia not use gotten? rubbish again Mr Stodge

I'll gotten but not forgotten....

...the accents of parts of the US and also of Australia, owe more to Irish and Scotch accents than obscure Tudor pronounciations ;)

[QUOTE=sdoj]You are not thinking of that New York Dolls track are you?

How does it go again? And now you're walkin' - just like you're ten feet tall - go ahead...[/QUOTE]
Noooo.. pensavo sono un selvatico gatto napoletano con che meccanismo complicato e raffinato.. ma a causa di questo, questo gatto.. gets threads flying.. punto e basta! :D

:) :)

[QUOTE=Wishful Thinker]SA - borth
Australia not use gotten? rubbish again Mr Stodge[/QUOTE]

no need to be offensive Tinks - we are not in the Canberra debating chambers now cobba - I was just recounting what I had read . Perhaps the aussies picked up "gotten" in South Korea or Vietnam from when they were fighting for liberty and happiness alongside their American allies.

:D :) :D

It's a wonderful thing to hear the accents of the British who have moved to the southern States, and have mixed things up with a "Howdy yaaaaaaaaawl" It's easy to pick up and use a sloooowwwwwwwww southern drawl :)

I'm jumping ship.. to watch it sink! :D

:) :)

Wouldn't say this was a ship, more like a coricle with only one paddle ;)

Could someone tell Aliena that 'pet' in Geordie is a term of endearment
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