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good idea
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 05/02/2006 - 08:42In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
hi there
I'm sure that your services will be much appreciated as I'm finding it tricky to find someone who can appreciate why and how we want our old stone building to be!The main thing is getting a realistic idea of costs.
We chose Abruzzo because Puglia seemed too hot and dry but I'm coming round to its charms!Do you know a good agent for Trulli?
Becky
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Not that I think you are serious about moving to Puglia but all I can say about any agent is use one that has been recomended MORE than once where ever you are looking. :)
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Thanks for the response. I'm not sure we will want to get into too much renovation. We have been looking into some villa's fairly close to the Ioanian coast which seem reasonably priced. I look forward to actually seeing them as opposed to seeing them online!!
not trullo
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 05/02/2006 - 10:06In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"]Why do you say that?Actually as a real glutton for punishment I am thinking about another house in Italy the we sell the one we like least once the restoration is done.
I know that Adriactica was always banging on about pollution and Puglia and that did put me off quite a bit....then I read this on the main site !As a result, police said, the local water table was contaminated and toxic substances as well as dangerously high levels of metals were found in a local river. On Monday police arrested 16 people for dumping toxic waste into the seas off Taranto, Puglia, and a further 80 people from all over Italy were placed under investigation in the probe.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[B]Environment Minister Altero Matteoli said on Wednesday that waste disposal - both toxic and domestic - was the biggest environmental problem facing the south of Italy. There has been a string of protests against waste incinerators in the south in recent years while rubbish has built up to dangerous levels in cities from Naples to Palermo.
Police and environmental organisations such as the World Wide Fund for Nature say much of the waste disposal market is controlled by various southern mafias.[/B]
Oh dear!!!
Becky
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Wow!! Thats important information to have, thanks Becky
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=manopello][FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"]Why do you say that?Actually as a real glutton for punishment I am thinking about another house in Italy the we sell the one we like least once the restoration is done.
I know that Adriactica was always banging on about pollution and Puglia and that did put me off quite a bit....then I read this on the main site !As a result, police said, the local water table was contaminated and toxic substances as well as dangerously high levels of metals were found in a local river. On Monday police arrested 16 people for dumping toxic waste into the seas off Taranto, Puglia, and a further 80 people from all over Italy were placed under investigation in the probe.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[B]Environment Minister Altero Matteoli said on Wednesday that waste disposal - both toxic and domestic - was the biggest environmental problem facing the south of Italy. There has been a string of protests against waste incinerators in the south in recent years while rubbish has built up to dangerous levels in cities from Naples to Palermo.
Police and environmental organisations such as the World Wide Fund for Nature say much of the waste disposal market is controlled by various southern mafias.[/B]
Oh dear!!!
Becky[/QUOTE]
Let me ask you a question?? Where is all this toxic waste comming from??
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=debhosc]Hi ,
does anybody out there have any information on this area. Property appears to be somewhat cheaper than other parts of Puglia (is there a reason for this). What is the rental market like? Is it a good area to invest?[/quote]
No one has actually answered your questions fully. Parsonally I think with any area investment is hit and miss, yes we are hoping that our Trullo will go up in value but as long as we don't end up with a loss it isn't a priority.The area has become very popular and prices are going up but equally there are still many rustico properties available that haven't sold for years.As with any property it would depend on type, quality and location. Rental again is popular at the moment but who knows what will happen in the future. Puglia is very different than mid Italy, has an arabic feel to it but we still think it's great. The toxic waste debate goes on, I again do not feel that it is a direct risk to anyone living or buying in the area, yes it is in the news a lot but I think you have to be realistic about the whole situation and not let it put you off the area.
where?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 05/02/2006 - 16:21In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Frank ..it's coming from the rest of europe but that's absolutely no reason it should be dumped on Italy just because some business man stands to make a quick buck!
In the UK we'd have all sorts of groups protesting about it and in Italy too many people are trying to get it stopped but with so much corruption......It's really important that Puglia does make progress on this issue or it will put a lot of people off this lovely region.
Trullo...how can you say it doesn't really matter..who wants to swim in a toxic sea? I'm afraid that I get very upset about things like this as in 2004 my Dad died very slowly from Mesophilioma caused by asbestos dust he breathed in the 1960's. At the time he was working with no mask and it's expected that 1 in 100 men over 50 in UK will have this terrible cancer.
Please don't think I'm Puglia bashing, I'm not..just very concerned for anyone who may innocently move into a very polluted area without knowing and then 20 years in the futuure find themselves in a similar position to my Dad.
Becky
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Becky,
There is polution everywhere. What is happening in Puglia was happening in New Jersy, USA in the 1980's. How did they resolve the problem. Simple, trace the garbage back to its orgin and charge the producer of the toxic garbage the clean up fees. Toxic waste does not just materialize in thin air. It comes from somewhere.
Frank
Puglia: Land of toxic waste? 2nd February 2006
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 05/02/2006 - 18:40In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=manopello][FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"]Why do you say that?Actually as a real glutton for punishment I am thinking about another house in Italy the we sell the one we like least once the restoration is done.
I know that Adriactica was always banging on about pollution and Puglia and that did put me off quite a bit....then I read this on the main site !As a result, police said, the local water table was contaminated and toxic substances as well as dangerously high levels of metals were found in a local river. On Monday police arrested 16 people for dumping toxic waste into the seas off Taranto, Puglia, and a further 80 people from all over Italy were placed under investigation in the probe.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[B]Environment Minister Altero Matteoli said on Wednesday that waste disposal - both toxic and domestic - was the biggest environmental problem facing the south of Italy. There has been a string of protests against waste incinerators in the south in recent years while rubbish has built up to dangerous levels in cities from Naples to Palermo.
Police and environmental organisations such as the World Wide Fund for Nature say much of the waste disposal market is controlled by various southern mafias.[/B]
Oh dear!!!
Becky[/QUOTE]
Becky, put your wooden spoon away please dear ;) This subject has been done to (toxic) death as I'm sure you know. Anyone interested ... that didn't happen to catch it (or indeed contribute, it's a long thread I warn you) first time around ... search: 'Puglia: Land of toxic waste? Started 2nd February this year. Now can I please get back to shooting down the giant mutant moths nesting in my 'orto'.
And for those members maybe considering investing in a property in Puglia? Go for it I say. Personally I find that the luminous green glow given off by the soil saves me a fortune in outside lighting costs :D
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[quote=manopello]Frank ..it's coming from the rest of europe but that's absolutely no reason it should be dumped on Italy just because some business man stands to make a quick buck!
In the UK we'd have all sorts of groups protesting about it and in Italy too many people are trying to get it stopped but with so much corruption......It's really important that Puglia does make progress on this issue or it will put a lot of people off this lovely region.
Trullo...how can you say it doesn't really matter..who wants to swim in a toxic sea? I'm afraid that I get very upset about things like this as in 2004 my Dad died very slowly from Mesophilioma caused by asbestos dust he breathed in the 1960's. At the time he was working with no mask and it's expected that 1 in 100 men over 50 in UK will have this terrible cancer.
Please don't think I'm Puglia bashing, I'm not..just very concerned for anyone who may innocently move into a very polluted area without knowing and then 20 years in the futuure find themselves in a similar position to my Dad.
Becky[/quote]
Becky firstly I never said it didn't matter and secondly how can you be judge and jury about what really happens in Puglia, if we all believed everything we read in the news we would all be dead by now. Yes it is very serious but can you put things into perspective.
bliss?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 05/03/2006 - 05:36In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
talk about ignorance being bliss..I'll shut up now
Becky
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
No Becky ignorance is not bliss and as I have said before it is good to know the good and the bad but everything needs to be given a balance view, thats all.:)
Hi Debhosc, As nobody else has replied to you, I'd just like to say that I live and work in Puglia - at Locorotondo in the Valle d'Itria - and i can assure you that it is a thoroughly charming area. At the moment people are investing in trulli here. Trulli are the famous antique conical constructions that can even be purchased directly from the owners. They can be rebuilt by local builders giving you an authentic little piece of 'paradise'. If you're interested, maybe you could visit my website.