After my success answering Annec's question, its my turn. However, I’m not clever enough for an ‘Italian’ question – so I’ll go for one with a ‘Greek’ connection insteadI’m a ‘sad’ man who likes numbers.
My post was solely about the risk of being quarantined on returning overland from italy to the uk.
With the way infection rates are going in europe, travelling by car or rail looks fraught with the risk of quarantine when you get to the uk.
As well as the problem with avoiding Belgium and Luxembourg (I'm not convinced that not stopping in those countries when driving through will allow you to avoid quarantine), infection rates are rising in France and the Netherlands. Switzerland also has problems, especially in the Geneva area.... .. .. So I'm 95% certain that my trip to my holiday house near Lake Orta in September won't happen.
Travel after Brexit doesn't worry me unduly. It's in the EU's interest to allow UK residents entry, remembering that we never were inside Schengen anyway. So current arrangement will probably be reproduced after Brexit.
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Let's hope that Italy continues to control the virus as well as they are now.
Anyone travelling through Belgium who arrives in UK after 0400hrs on Saturday morning will have to quarantine for 2 weeks
Luxembourg
UK quarantine applies now
Area of Uncertainty
The only thing that isn't clear is whether you have to quarantine if you drive straight through without anyone entering or leaving the car whatsoever. (Food, petrol, or toilet stops, breakdowns, accidents etc would mean quarantine anyway)
I've heard opposite views on TV, from a Minister and a "Travel Expert"
I avoid Basle as I've experienced some serious delays there in the past.
By ducking into Germany near Colmar or Mulhouse onto the autobahn you can turn off before Basle and take the dual carriageway bypassing Lorach straight into Swizerland. Never been stopped on that route, and I reckon that because of the clear roads it just as quick, if not quicker, than the busy roads through Basle.
To get them to go away, you will need to trap them, and release them well away from your house - by "well" meaning 1 mile plus.
To discourage more coming, block off every entry to the house, even those at roof level remove climbing plants from the walls and remove overhanging branches.
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Ugo, thank you for your response.
My post was solely about the risk of being quarantined on returning overland from italy to the uk.
With the way infection rates are going in europe, travelling by car or rail looks fraught with the risk of quarantine when you get to the uk.
As well as the problem with avoiding Belgium and Luxembourg (I'm not convinced that not stopping in those countries when driving through will allow you to avoid quarantine), infection rates are rising in France and the Netherlands. Switzerland also has problems, especially in the Geneva area.... .. .. So I'm 95% certain that my trip to my holiday house near Lake Orta in September won't happen.
Travel after Brexit doesn't worry me unduly. It's in the EU's interest to allow UK residents entry, remembering that we never were inside Schengen anyway. So current arrangement will probably be reproduced after Brexit.
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Let's hope that Italy continues to control the virus as well as they are now.
Belgium
Anyone travelling through Belgium who arrives in UK after 0400hrs on Saturday morning will have to quarantine for 2 weeks
Luxembourg
UK quarantine applies now
Area of Uncertainty
The only thing that isn't clear is whether you have to quarantine if you drive straight through without anyone entering or leaving the car whatsoever. (Food, petrol, or toilet stops, breakdowns, accidents etc would mean quarantine anyway)
I've heard opposite views on TV, from a Minister and a "Travel Expert"
I avoid Basle as I've experienced some serious delays there in the past.
By ducking into Germany near Colmar or Mulhouse onto the autobahn you can turn off before Basle and take the dual carriageway bypassing Lorach straight into Swizerland. Never been stopped on that route, and I reckon that because of the clear roads it just as quick, if not quicker, than the busy roads through Basle.
Then straight on to Lucerne and the Gotthard.
Need a new route now Luxembourg has gone on the Quarantine list
Expect Belgium to go on the list soon.
I will go:-
Calais, Chalons en Champagne Vitry le Francais Nancy, Colmar, into Germany, Lorach and on to Lucerne. Then Gotthard Tunnel and into Italy.j
To get them to go away, you will need to trap them, and release them well away from your house - by "well" meaning 1 mile plus.
To discourage more coming, block off every entry to the house, even those at roof level remove climbing plants from the walls and remove overhanging branches.
Good luck - you'll need it
Surprisingly, it appears that if you trap dormice in the UK, you cannot release them in the wild, but have to humanely kill them.
Hopefully its different in Italy
You could try Googling to find any ex-pat forums in the area. If there are, then try to contact them.
Thanks.
Hoping to go down in September, quarantined permitting
Which route did you take, and were there any overnight stops? If so what were they like?
Would be helpful to know how your trip goes, and what things are really like in Italy.
We're hoping to drive down in mid September.