WASP STING
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Sat, 06/06/2009 - 05:14In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
wasps and ticks
Submitted by sagraiasolar on Sat, 06/06/2009 - 16:52In reply to WASP STING by Gala Placidia
One night last summer someone we had just had supper with got stung by one of those big wasp things and went into shock and stopped breathing... luckily a neighbour whacked in an epi-pen and brought her back to life again... so the usual idea is to start off for pronto sicorso when stung. Also ticks - festering bites that never heal can lead to serious complications and even brain damage so ALWAYS go to pronto sicorso for a course of anti Bi's. Chopping out the bite area follwed by a couple of stitches is the normal course of action.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
There was a young man from StepkneeWho was stung on the neck by a waspWhen asked if it hurtHe said "no, not a lot;I'm glad it wasn't a hornet"On a more serious note; if you're going to the sea, there's sometimes the danger of being stung by a jellyfish or even step on a stingy fish that lives just under the sand. Jean carries in her Mary Poppins bag a small container of bicarbonate of soda. Applied quickly to the sting, this can ease the discomfort considerably.
I RUBBED IT WITH ALCOHOL
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Sat, 06/06/2009 - 16:04In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
That is what I did and it helped... a bit. I also bought some type of ointment that the pharmacist recommended, but I do not have it here with me in Spain as I left it at our home in Bagni di Lucca, so I can't tell you its brand name. Anyway, it did not help much.....
TICKS
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Sat, 06/06/2009 - 17:51In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Ticks are extremely dangerous for both humans and pets. Do not try to remove the tick unless you really know what you are doing and you are an expert in the use of tweezers. I was quite good at it when I was living in Australia.... Above all, don't try to apply any products to try to kill the tick. It is counterproductive. Go straight to the doctor or the vet. They know how to deal with the problem.
I agree Gala. I was once
Submitted by Brian Stoner on Wed, 06/17/2009 - 10:07In reply to TICKS by Gala Placidia
I agree Gala. I was once atacked by a tick in BHutan on a trek and discovered a tick burrowing into me at 230am in my tent. The application of a pair of tweezers pulled the tick to pieces followed by some antibiotic straight away. Washing the area with some whisky then taking the whisky internally. I was left with an infection that took a couple of days to clear up. A very strange sensation to see te rear legs of an animal digging into me!
Been stung before?
Submitted by coppicer on Sat, 06/06/2009 - 18:00In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
The other thing to remember about wasp stings is that if you have been stung before, susbsequent stings can be far worse and evnetually your body reacts violently to what is just another sting. A close friend of ours has to carry special antidotes for without these a wasp sting could kill him. When he visits us in Italy he always tells me where they are - just in case.
Wasp sting could kill
Submitted by Serge on Sun, 06/07/2009 - 03:58In reply to Been stung before? by coppicer
Those horrible bees!!
Submitted by cilla10 on Sun, 06/07/2009 - 09:27In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Hairspray?
Submitted by Andrew on Sun, 06/07/2009 - 10:58In reply to Those horrible bees!! by cilla10
Pretty well known that any perfumed substance applied to your body eyc will attract flying beasties. We spent almost 5 years near Parma / Mantova on the banks of the river Po, and the Tiger Mozzies there are like helicopters with a death wish! (towards you....!!!). Any deodorants / perfumes / hairsprays etc were to be avoided at all costs.Just out of interest we take a daily dose of Brewer's Yeast that keeps the mozzies at bay.
Think we must all have our
Submitted by Angie and Robert on Sun, 06/07/2009 - 09:56In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Think we must all have our beetle noir, for me I love the bees, tolerate the wasps, but what I find hard to get used to are the hornets, at 5.30 this morning one was having a great attempt at getting through the closed shutters, to join me in the bedroom, I think its the sheer size of them and that whilst I know they are not aggressive a sting would send me off to the nearest A&E.A
We have a hornets nest,
Submitted by pilchard on Sun, 06/07/2009 - 10:25In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to We have a hornets nest, by pilchard
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
On the local Sicily news today they said that a German that lives here was bitten by a tick and died as a result - the expert brought on to comment pointed out that now is a particularly tricky period and everyone should be particularly careful in the countryside - preferably going out fully clothed rather than shorts, etc. The symptoms of a tick bite are similar to those of pneumonia so it is all about diagnosing the symptoms correctly.
Wasp/bee sting
Submitted by karenr on Sun, 06/07/2009 - 15:10In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Our Harry (sully's pup) was stung back in May. First we knew of it was early hours of "National Holiday" Saturday he was shaking his head and generally unsettled - we assumed a tick and tried to look for it. After about 20 mins his face had doubled in size and he was becoming almost as stressed as we were. Thankfully we have an amazing vet who saw us at 4am on that Saturday morning and diagnosed wasp/bee sting. Harry was injected and watched for an hour before being allowed home with a course of antihistamines. Vet gave us a shot to bring home for future emergency use and advised it was suitable for us or the dogs! Given how Harry reacted I am very grateful for that.
Tips from an
Submitted by elliven on Mon, 06/08/2009 - 17:49In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Tips from an ex-pharmacistDEET is the only thing that works really well as a repellent1% hydrocortisone cream works very well once stungMozzy nets at the windows are a fiddle to put up but work very wellIf a tick digs its head in your skin put a blob of olive oil/vaseline on it and it will drop off without leaving mouthparts behind very quickly (the oil blocks its spiracules used for breathing)Wear a hat when gardening ,all sorts of beasts drop out of foliage!Hope this helps!
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
My 18 month old son has just brought an Italian tick home with him... although I know they CAN be very nasty, let's not scaremonger too much! His fell out before I had a chance to get it removed by the doctor (couldn't face doing it myself in case I did it wrong). I took him to the doctor anyway and she said most of the time, there's absolutely no problem. Obviously there is a small risk of Lyme disease or other nasty infections, but this is relatively rare.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
There is something about wasps being alkali and bees acid, or is it the other way round... if you are allergic to one apparently you are not to the other.I have heard the Brewers Yeast theory before, ie eat lots of Marmite and you won't get stung but haven't put it to the test as when I am in sunny climes Marmite doesnt feature on my menu...Also got a tip a few years back that the British Army was having such a hard time on manouvres in Scotland from the midges that they tried everything and eventually found that Avon skin oil worked the best, I tried it in majorca but can't say it was too sucessful...
Have tried the Avon Skin so
Submitted by Angie and Robert on Wed, 06/10/2009 - 04:26In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Skin so soft
Submitted by pilchard on Wed, 06/10/2009 - 04:58In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Made me oily and sticky and didn't work very well.But heard a good tip that does work. After finding you have been bitten you can apply nail varnish to bite (only tried on mozzie bites) it excludes the air and stops the itchiness. Really works. But of course, red blobs everywhere dont look good!
This is so weird - I SWEAR by
Submitted by Mimosa on Wed, 06/10/2009 - 07:23In reply to Skin so soft by pilchard
This is so weird - I SWEAR by Avon Skin So Soft Dry Oil body spray!! - obviously suits some bods and not others. If I am forgetful or unlucky or my husband (who refuses the Avon stuff) get bitten, a dab of 98% Alcool does the trick - takes the sting away and obviously if you don't scratch the bite and re-dab every so often clears up quickly.
Just re-read your comments
Submitted by Mimosa on Wed, 06/10/2009 - 07:29In reply to This is so weird - I SWEAR by by Mimosa
Removing ticks
Submitted by coppicer on Wed, 06/17/2009 - 17:08In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Coppicer - we had to take our
Submitted by Sarah and Mark on Wed, 06/17/2009 - 17:31In reply to Removing ticks by coppicer
Coppicer - we had to take our 'puppy' to the vets as she had a tick on her eyelid, right next to her eye. She told us that the way you mentioned is the correct way to remove them but because it was right on her eye, it was impossible. Jessie did have Frontline on her, but at this time of year, it just didn't seem to work.The vet put a new treatment (will try and find out the name) on her and said the tick would fall off automatically within 24 hours, which it did thank goodness - horrid creatures! Why were they invented?
Tick removal
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 06/19/2009 - 10:15In reply to Removing ticks by coppicer
We found that an effective method to remove ticks was to use either a just dowsed match applied to the back of the tick and then just remove with fingers. Apparently the heat makes it withdraw its jaws so can be removed withouth leaving it's head still biting down. Any very hot object would do(heating tip of knife etc). Also I have heard that smearing the tick in moisturiser will work as it drops of within a day.If not you get a tick with beautifully smooth skin.............................Joking apart you should alway ensure you get the head out as the bite will get infected if not.
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We are surrounded by fields used for grazing sheep,and the herds of sheep are often "walked" along the white road,along which we daily walk our dog. Ticks used to be a major problem and removing them with alcohol a tedious and sometimes lengthy process,the worst aspect of which was not knowing when or where the tick would drop off! There's nothing worse than squashing a tick by treading on it with bare feet!! We now use a Scalibor collar and have had no sign of ticks for the last two seasons. These are easily obtained from the Farmacia,cost about 22 euro and are effective for 4 to 6 months. It also repels sandflies,but not fleas.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Al, your wicked sense of
Submitted by Angie and Robert on Thu, 06/18/2009 - 05:19In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
wasp nightmares
Submitted by Kevan Cummins on Thu, 06/18/2009 - 06:57In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I used to have regular dreams that seemed to end with a wasp either getting in my hair or down the back of my shirt and then it would sting and I would wake up.... not a bad nightmare compared to what others might have but still not a nice way to wake up in the night.
When I went to live on a small island near Hong Kong this came to an abrupt end. I got stung by one of these beasts while sleeping in bed.... then again while sleeping in bed....then again while sitting on the coach watching TV. That was the end of the wasp nightmares....only to be replaced by ... I think you can guess.
I lived in that house for 4 months before deciding to move somewhere that wasn't infested with centipedes - I still got a few more nasty bites (in some places where only a man could ever be bitten) over the following years but I'm no longer that worried about wasps and coming to Italy seems to have cured me of the centipede nightmares.
I did see a small scorpion on my bedroom wall last night, and one in my wellington boot...I hope that I haven't found a new beastie to fear.
Kevan
Kevan you could move over to
Submitted by Angie and Robert on Thu, 06/18/2009 - 08:14In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Kevan you could move over to my concerns re hornets, they are the only thing that concern me here, I actually like those waspy things with dangly legs that fly upside down and lay the little mud cocoons behind pictures. In fact on intrepid one is doing it now as I type. But hornets are a different thing altogether!.A
Hornets - eughh
Submitted by Kevan Cummins on Thu, 06/18/2009 - 08:40In reply to Kevan you could move over to by Angie and Robert
Sorry if I got off subject - back to hornets...there's some really interesting info on wikipedia about differences between European hornets and yellow jackets and hornets attacking people which I've copied below - which looks like sound advice. I usually run a mile at the site of a wasp so you won't get me killing a hornet in the first place, let alone doing it near a nest.
Alarm escalation
Hornets, like many social wasps, can mobilize the entire nest to sting in defense: this is highly dangerous to humans. The hornet alarm pheromone is used to raise alarm of nest attack, and to identify prey, for example bees.[5] It is not advisable to kill a hornet anywhere near a nest, as the distress signal can trigger the entire nest to attack. Materials that come in contact with pheromone, such as clothes, skin, dead prey or hornets, must be removed from the vicinity of the hornets nest. Perfumes, and other volatile chemicals can be falsely identified as pheromone by the hornets and trigger attack
back to hornets
Submitted by Kevan Cummins on Thu, 06/18/2009 - 08:44In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Just thought i posted a reply but it seems to have disappeared...sorry for moving off discussion thread - have to admit I didn't real all replies but saw discussion of ticks and other beasties so thought it had already gone a bit off topcic...anyway back to hornets There's some really good advice and info about hornets on wikipedia and I've copeid a snippet below
Alarm escalation
Hornets, like many social wasps, can mobilize the entire nest to sting in defense: this is highly dangerous to humans. The hornet alarm pheromone is used to raise alarm of nest attack, and to identify prey, for example bees.[5] It is not advisable to kill a hornet anywhere near a nest, as the distress signal can trigger the entire nest to attack. Materials that come in contact with pheromone, such as clothes, skin, dead prey or hornets, must be removed from the vicinity of the hornets nest. Perfumes, and other volatile chemicals can be falsely identified as pheromone by the hornets and trigger attack.
Fascinating Kevan, wasnt
Submitted by Angie and Robert on Thu, 06/18/2009 - 08:56In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Fascinating Kevan, wasnt meaning to bring you back on track, !, just give you something else to dream about, lucky we dont live in Japan. Perhaps learning more about things we are fearful of will help us to understand them better, I am not yet ready to embrace a hornet though.A
Don't get me started on
Submitted by Kevan Cummins on Thu, 06/18/2009 - 09:04In reply to Fascinating Kevan, wasnt by Angie and Robert
Don't get me started on dangerous beasties in Asia...I'm glad to be back in Europe with nice safe dangerous animals. I have been living in fear of being attacked by wasps since watching those horrible B movies with names like 'Swarm' and 'killer Bees' and it sounds like you have to be careful here in the countryside in Italy.I was always led to believe that hornets were solitary creatures and fairly rare so up until now haven't really regarded them as a threat but I've learned something new today.Kevan
Just when I thought it was
Submitted by Angie and Robert on Fri, 06/19/2009 - 08:47In reply to Don't get me started on by Kevan Cummins
Just when I thought it was safe to go outside, having learned from Kevans post what wonderful creatures hornets were and how they can fly backwards in order to avoid you and are not attracted to food.....I sat with a refreshing glass of white wine relaxing in the warm evening sun, admiring the view (you know all that Italian stuff) when along comes Mr cheeky hornet, sits on my wine glass , takes a large slurp and then flies off, so be warned, they may not be attracted to food but like the occasional tipple.!.(Wildly off topic...but I did start the thread, get Sarah to tell you her rat story Kevan!)A
Off topic again...well not really
Submitted by pilchard on Fri, 06/19/2009 - 09:02In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Just been to visit a nearby friend and she has this huge red and purple raised and now scaby looking area on her neck and chest...Looks awful. She says she was grass cutting and got bitten ,(quite painful) and the thing,(?). She didn't see it, left a small black dot on her neck. This got hot and very itchy and spread all across her neck and down her chest. Visited Doc who said it was "Herpes" ???????????????????? No way. So what did the biting this time??Sprat
Bite..
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 06/23/2009 - 12:53In reply to Off topic again...well not really by pilchard
I wouldnt think it safe to
Submitted by Angie and Robert on Fri, 06/19/2009 - 10:18In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Hands
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 06/23/2009 - 12:52In reply to I wouldnt think it safe to by Angie and Robert
I've been removing then that way for years and it's not done me any harm....(woooooooooo). If you are sensible about it i.e. wash hands, don't lick your fingers etc. no harm at all. I find fingers better than tweezers because with tweezers you could apply to much force and squash the little darling leaving the head stuck in aforementioned animal which then means you have a problem. I always apply tea tree oil to the area afterwards to kill any infection.. Easy Peasy..