Determine if either of your Italian great-grandfathers naturalized in the US prior to birth of your Grandparents. They could not pass Italian citizenship to children born after their naturalization.If the grandparent/parent whom you are tracing Italian citizenship through was female, only her children born after 1947 could receive Italian citizenship through her.If the above conditions are met, you're eligible. You'll need proof of great-grandfather's US naturalization date (if any), birth, marriage, death certificates for ancestors in the chain. See your regional Italian consulate's website regarding an appoinment.
No, I'm afraid it's a poor translation of a false friend. Rather than "transit through", transitare means "to pass", as in "pass into the country" (think passport). There is no variant of Italian passport that only allows one to travel within EU and only "transit through' non-EU countries to reach other EU countries. BTW for EU countries, you can visit with only your carta d'identità. Furthermore, you can go to some non-EU countries (e.g. Switzerland, Norway and Croatia- for more download Documenti validi per l'espatrio ) with only your carta d'identità, no passport needed. A passport permitting only the same would be rather useless.My wife's passport was issued at Los Angeles consulate. It's 2005 pre-lettura ottica, so I suspect you're right- they've "improved" the wording, further confusing us poor Inglesi.
Doesn't "This passport is valid for member countries of the european union and for transit through non eu countries" effectively mean valid to travel worldwide? My wife's Italian passport instead says "This passport is valid for all Countries whose Governments are recognized by the Italian Government" That's actually a bit more restrictive than "This passport is valid for member countries of the european union and for transit through non eu countries". BTW, if you're a US citizen you must enter/exit US on your US passport. As for the marca da bollo, it's a tax, legally you should do it. No one will check in the US or on return to UK though, only if you enter Italy. But do the right thing- Italy's running a budget deficit of 9.3% of GDP- she needs your money!
Yes, understand the historical aspect, but for the last 17 years Italy has allowed dual citizenship. That's why I don't understand why one now (not decades ago) wouldn't just have their Italian citizenship through marriage recognized? Seems much simpler. As you mentioned on the old forum, you already have Italian citizenship (just not officially recognized):"I was married in 1966 and I automatically became an Italian Citizen as the wife of an Italian. I was entitled to an Italian Passport which I declined and I retained my British nationality and passport - thus I had dual nationality. "Or is the tax advantage so great it outweighs the added bureaucracy?
Don't you have Italian citizenship through marriage prior to 1983? If so, you shouldn't need a Certificate for Permanent Residency. You just need to have your Italian citizenship recognized.
"The permesso has been replaced by a straightforward residency document (so it hasn't completely disappeared, just morphed into something else). " True. To avoid confusion rather than calling it permesso maybe we should call it residency.
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There are plenty of clowns in parliament now- Bossi and the rest of the Lega Nord deputati and senatori for starters.
PD is in the minority in parliament- Pdl/Lega Nord are in the majority.
Determine if either of your Italian great-grandfathers naturalized in the US prior to birth of your Grandparents. They could not pass Italian citizenship to children born after their naturalization.If the grandparent/parent whom you are tracing Italian citizenship through was female, only her children born after 1947 could receive Italian citizenship through her.If the above conditions are met, you're eligible. You'll need proof of great-grandfather's US naturalization date (if any), birth, marriage, death certificates for ancestors in the chain. See your regional Italian consulate's website regarding an appoinment.
No, I'm afraid it's a poor translation of a false friend. Rather than "transit through", transitare means "to pass", as in "pass into the country" (think passport). There is no variant of Italian passport that only allows one to travel within EU and only "transit through' non-EU countries to reach other EU countries. BTW for EU countries, you can visit with only your carta d'identità. Furthermore, you can go to some non-EU countries (e.g. Switzerland, Norway and Croatia- for more download Documenti validi per l'espatrio ) with only your carta d'identità, no passport needed. A passport permitting only the same would be rather useless.My wife's passport was issued at Los Angeles consulate. It's 2005 pre-lettura ottica, so I suspect you're right- they've "improved" the wording, further confusing us poor Inglesi.
Doesn't "This passport is valid for member countries of the european union and for transit through non eu countries" effectively mean valid to travel worldwide? My wife's Italian passport instead says "This passport is valid for all Countries whose Governments are recognized by the Italian Government" That's actually a bit more restrictive than "This passport is valid for member countries of the european union and for transit through non eu countries". BTW, if you're a US citizen you must enter/exit US on your US passport. As for the marca da bollo, it's a tax, legally you should do it. No one will check in the US or on return to UK though, only if you enter Italy. But do the right thing- Italy's running a budget deficit of 9.3% of GDP- she needs your money!
The tende installers around here make them to measure, (the same folks that install the external tende).
Yes, understand the historical aspect, but for the last 17 years Italy has allowed dual citizenship. That's why I don't understand why one now (not decades ago) wouldn't just have their Italian citizenship through marriage recognized? Seems much simpler. As you mentioned on the old forum, you already have Italian citizenship (just not officially recognized):"I was married in 1966 and I automatically became an Italian Citizen as the wife of an Italian. I was entitled to an Italian Passport which I declined and I retained my British nationality and passport - thus I had dual nationality. "Or is the tax advantage so great it outweighs the added bureaucracy?
Don't you have Italian citizenship through marriage prior to 1983? If so, you shouldn't need a Certificate for Permanent Residency. You just need to have your Italian citizenship recognized.
"The permesso has been replaced by a straightforward residency document (so it hasn't completely disappeared, just morphed into something else). " True. To avoid confusion rather than calling it permesso maybe we should call it residency.
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