There is no distance element in the RTA concerning MOT tests. There is case law on this. There is no vehicle condition requirement when you are insured and insurance companies cannot, in any country, cancel your insurance unless you are given notice in writing and you can appeal. The ANPR camera at the port does not ping petty things like MOT, it is there for serious things and pings cars that are on the database. There are no police waiting for you at the gates. There is no offence in Italy of not having an MOT on a UK car. There is no offence in Italy of not having UK tax on a UK car. There is no statutory 90 days. Whatever you signed or were told doesn't mean anything. It is only a tax and not international terrorism. Police have more important things to look at whatever wishful thinking.
Most rules on licencing and taxation though ratified have not been incorporated into any national legislation. Hence UK road tax is only required in UK and lack of it in any other EU country is not an offence. SORN is theoretically for cars kept offroad in UK to prevent the automatic issuing of a fine. There is nothing wrong in then removing the car from the country as there is no offence of failing to notify export. As said by masca you can keep up your UK insurance based on your UK address and are legally covered. If you make a different claim on the fully comp. part of your policy the insurance company may be able to squirm out of paying depending on the policy, that applies in UK also and happens all the time as we know. A way to deal with returning to UK without tax is to formally book a MOT test for your day of arrival which will allow you to drive to the test station on that day even if it is in Inverness. If you don't want to risk that there are garages in Dover who specialise in this.
I didn't realise that people sold houses on ebay. Had a quick look there but couldn't see much. I was amused to see Spedizione gratuita Posta prioritaria on an apartment in Siracusa.
I got stopped on a random check some months ago and was asked for the car's safety certificate. MOT was acceptible, although I didn't have the new one in the car. They told me not to worry - they could check the car was 'safe' by sending through the tax disc details. I think we take it for granted that there's no communication these days between British & Italian authorities. I'd hazard a guess to say that it's way more advanced that we probably realise. I'd hazard a guess that they haven't actually tried to do it.
the Italian way to write the laws and to interpret them is certainly different from all other countries in the world -
And so we need to hire professionals and pay them lots of money to deal with this due to our inability to understand these extremely complicated things, is that it?
It is normal to use them but not for me. They can tell you what to do and then explain later why it didn't work. I remember some time ago in an old Italian colony called Argentina which has a horrendous bureacracy being able to go to a library and copy some rules to explain to a bureaucrat the correct procedure. If I had used a local lawyer I would probably still be there. However this renting out a place for a few hours at a time and not being considered as a landlord for tax purposes seems to have possibilities.
I find it covenient to remain a UK resident as I know the system. I have done and do reside much of the time outside UK. Throwing yourself into the bureaucracy of a country like Italy (or Portugal etc) where rules and reality often do not meet is a recipe for disaster.
It does seem that details are now being exchanged automatically between EU countries more than before. As far as UK is concerned this seems to be limited for the time being to National Savings accounts including premium bonds so that those accounts which would have gains tax free in UK become liable for tax in Italy etc. Property ownership in UK as known by the taxman is not so simple and details may come from an individual giving information to the Italian taxman.
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There is no distance element in the RTA concerning MOT tests. There is case law on this. There is no vehicle condition requirement when you are insured and insurance companies cannot, in any country, cancel your insurance unless you are given notice in writing and you can appeal. The ANPR camera at the port does not ping petty things like MOT, it is there for serious things and pings cars that are on the database. There are no police waiting for you at the gates. There is no offence in Italy of not having an MOT on a UK car. There is no offence in Italy of not having UK tax on a UK car. There is no statutory 90 days. Whatever you signed or were told doesn't mean anything. It is only a tax and not international terrorism. Police have more important things to look at whatever wishful thinking.
Most rules on licencing and taxation though ratified have not been incorporated into any national legislation. Hence UK road tax is only required in UK and lack of it in any other EU country is not an offence. SORN is theoretically for cars kept offroad in UK to prevent the automatic issuing of a fine. There is nothing wrong in then removing the car from the country as there is no offence of failing to notify export. As said by masca you can keep up your UK insurance based on your UK address and are legally covered. If you make a different claim on the fully comp. part of your policy the insurance company may be able to squirm out of paying depending on the policy, that applies in UK also and happens all the time as we know. A way to deal with returning to UK without tax is to formally book a MOT test for your day of arrival which will allow you to drive to the test station on that day even if it is in Inverness. If you don't want to risk that there are garages in Dover who specialise in this.
I didn't realise that people sold houses on ebay. Had a quick look there but couldn't see much. I was amused to see Spedizione gratuita Posta prioritaria on an apartment in Siracusa.
I tend to agree that there is no real way of making an open fire efficient.
I got stopped on a random check some months ago and was asked for the car's safety certificate. MOT was acceptible, although I didn't have the new one in the car. They told me not to worry - they could check the car was 'safe' by sending through the tax disc details. I think we take it for granted that there's no communication these days between British & Italian authorities. I'd hazard a guess to say that it's way more advanced that we probably realise. I'd hazard a guess that they haven't actually tried to do it.
The Astra F satellite is due online in the near future and it has a very tight footprint.
And so we need to hire professionals and pay them lots of money to deal with this due to our inability to understand these extremely complicated things, is that it?
It is normal to use them but not for me. They can tell you what to do and then explain later why it didn't work. I remember some time ago in an old Italian colony called Argentina which has a horrendous bureacracy being able to go to a library and copy some rules to explain to a bureaucrat the correct procedure. If I had used a local lawyer I would probably still be there. However this renting out a place for a few hours at a time and not being considered as a landlord for tax purposes seems to have possibilities.
I find it covenient to remain a UK resident as I know the system. I have done and do reside much of the time outside UK. Throwing yourself into the bureaucracy of a country like Italy (or Portugal etc) where rules and reality often do not meet is a recipe for disaster.
It does seem that details are now being exchanged automatically between EU countries more than before. As far as UK is concerned this seems to be limited for the time being to National Savings accounts including premium bonds so that those accounts which would have gains tax free in UK become liable for tax in Italy etc. Property ownership in UK as known by the taxman is not so simple and details may come from an individual giving information to the Italian taxman.