Hello Everyone :)I thought I introduce myself properly as I've already posted. First of all a HUGE THANK YOU to all those who have replied to my earlier post.
I don't have an advise on this one, I'm afraid, but as I'm also interested in the topic I shall gladly follow this thread :) But I've heard of these two which don't seem to charge all the hefty charges that Italian banks put on various transactions: http://www.bancaintesa.it) http://www.relaxbanking.it/
I'd love to explore various areas in Italy and, at some stage, stay. I'd probably start from Livorno, Pisa and surrounding areas (Livorno brings me back childhood memories when, with my dad and mum, we would make stop overs on the way to Terracina, Sperlonga, Gaeta and Formaia all down the coastal lines of Lazio). I've been looking at Ryanair and comparing with Easyjet, Easyjet seems to have better prices and without all the 'added' bits & pieces Ryanair customarily charge.
>I'd suggest you do not use the Notaio that your father does - better one that might be more 'independent'. >I think that the advice given by Alanh is very sound. Try to have your own Notaio. Ok, will do. Thank you.
>For anybody (Italian citizens living abroad) inscribed on AIRE, there were >some agevolazione determined yesterday, but not if you have rented out >your 'prima casa'. It's still a mess. I've just googled 'IMU e agevolazioni per iscritti all AIRE' and came up with this one http://www.corritalia.de/Dettaglio.26+M589349f1795.0.html As I understand quite a few are rather upset because there won't be any 'agevolazioni' for us :( so as not to discriminate against non-Italians who own properties abroad (I'm trying to work this one out!) It's one heck of a shock :o to me in terms of my having to pay council taxes here and there for a property that I don't really own yet, have never lived in, have never been able to make proper use of (e.g. rent some of it) and won't be able to make use of in the near future.
>La Dolcevita: ...I've just had a search through and her name is Charlotte Oliver. Thank you >RAM... But - your father does not need a procura to pay taxes you owe. He can just pay them. You own a share of the house, and they cannot sell without your permission. I'm wondering why does he keep asking me for a procura? I hope that he did not use the Procura General he had for many years to borrow money on my name. I'm only speculating, of course. I'll have to try to dig deeper and find out but it's going to be a feat as he's not the easiest person to reason with (sigh!). Thank you for clarifying about the 2nd home--that's confusing for me as I don't live in Italy but I see what you mean. >However, you cant pay your taxes from the UK, they must be paid in Italy. Oh dear! That means I'll have to make a trip down to where they live and pay if they decide not to. >Fillide: .....If you happened to be registered with AIRE (the official list of Italians >resident abroad) you >probably would not have any tax liability in respect >of a second home. It might even be worth your while >inscribing yourself on >this register (to exempt you from much of the IMU) but I don't think it >would be >retrospective if you have any back tax due to pay. Enqure of the >Italian Embassy about this. Yes, dad told me about ICI that I believe he did pay in the past. Yes, I am registered with EIRE. I'll drop the Italian Consulate an email. As far as the Notaio, I could use the one my father has been recently using or find one in the area. A Commercialista? ... Ok, I'll find one. Thank you All :) It looks like I have a lot of homework to do. My apologies from turning up onto this Forum with such a private and delicate problem but I feel a little lost, actually a lot as I've got a lot on at the moment (juggling my work, studies, family commitment, etc, etc,,,). I keep thinking about the positive things: the blue sky & blue sea I saw last time and a clear sky. I had forgotten the colour of the sea. Cheers! :)
Thank you for your reply. >As I understand it you own 50% of your mothers share ie 25% of the house your father and step mother live >in you are therefore liable for your 25% share of what was ICI and is now as of June called IMU (it's like council >tax - in comparison to the UK it's not a lot that you will need to pay)... 25% instead of 50% ? I see... Yes, I think you're right I need proper advise. I live in London. I hope member Charlotte sees this post and might reply.
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I don't have an advise on this one, I'm afraid, but as I'm also interested in the topic I shall gladly follow this thread :) But I've heard of these two which don't seem to charge all the hefty charges that Italian banks put on various transactions: http://www.bancaintesa.it) http://www.relaxbanking.it/
I'd love to explore various areas in Italy and, at some stage, stay. I'd probably start from Livorno, Pisa and surrounding areas (Livorno brings me back childhood memories when, with my dad and mum, we would make stop overs on the way to Terracina, Sperlonga, Gaeta and Formaia all down the coastal lines of Lazio). I've been looking at Ryanair and comparing with Easyjet, Easyjet seems to have better prices and without all the 'added' bits & pieces Ryanair customarily charge.
>I'd suggest you do not use the Notaio that your father does - better one that might be more 'independent'. >I think that the advice given by Alanh is very sound. Try to have your own Notaio. Ok, will do. Thank you.
>For anybody (Italian citizens living abroad) inscribed on AIRE, there were >some agevolazione determined yesterday, but not if you have rented out >your 'prima casa'. It's still a mess. I've just googled 'IMU e agevolazioni per iscritti all AIRE' and came up with this one http://www.corritalia.de/Dettaglio.26+M589349f1795.0.html As I understand quite a few are rather upset because there won't be any 'agevolazioni' for us :( so as not to discriminate against non-Italians who own properties abroad (I'm trying to work this one out!) It's one heck of a shock :o to me in terms of my having to pay council taxes here and there for a property that I don't really own yet, have never lived in, have never been able to make proper use of (e.g. rent some of it) and won't be able to make use of in the near future.
>La Dolcevita: ...I've just had a search through and her name is Charlotte Oliver. Thank you >RAM... But - your father does not need a procura to pay taxes you owe. He can just pay them. You own a share of the house, and they cannot sell without your permission. I'm wondering why does he keep asking me for a procura? I hope that he did not use the Procura General he had for many years to borrow money on my name. I'm only speculating, of course. I'll have to try to dig deeper and find out but it's going to be a feat as he's not the easiest person to reason with (sigh!). Thank you for clarifying about the 2nd home--that's confusing for me as I don't live in Italy but I see what you mean. >However, you cant pay your taxes from the UK, they must be paid in Italy. Oh dear! That means I'll have to make a trip down to where they live and pay if they decide not to. >Fillide: .....If you happened to be registered with AIRE (the official list of Italians >resident abroad) you >probably would not have any tax liability in respect >of a second home. It might even be worth your while >inscribing yourself on >this register (to exempt you from much of the IMU) but I don't think it >would be >retrospective if you have any back tax due to pay. Enqure of the >Italian Embassy about this. Yes, dad told me about ICI that I believe he did pay in the past. Yes, I am registered with EIRE. I'll drop the Italian Consulate an email. As far as the Notaio, I could use the one my father has been recently using or find one in the area. A Commercialista? ... Ok, I'll find one. Thank you All :) It looks like I have a lot of homework to do. My apologies from turning up onto this Forum with such a private and delicate problem but I feel a little lost, actually a lot as I've got a lot on at the moment (juggling my work, studies, family commitment, etc, etc,,,). I keep thinking about the positive things: the blue sky & blue sea I saw last time and a clear sky. I had forgotten the colour of the sea. Cheers! :)
Thank you for your reply. >As I understand it you own 50% of your mothers share ie 25% of the house your father and step mother live >in you are therefore liable for your 25% share of what was ICI and is now as of June called IMU (it's like council >tax - in comparison to the UK it's not a lot that you will need to pay)... 25% instead of 50% ? I see... Yes, I think you're right I need proper advise. I live in London. I hope member Charlotte sees this post and might reply.