I found this, which may help
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Thu, 09/18/2014 - 12:50In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I found this, which may help http://www.understandingitaly.com/living-content/motoring.html
Thanks for this Galia. I had
Submitted by channelislander1 on Thu, 09/18/2014 - 13:37In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Thanks for this Galia. I had seen it some weeks ago. Not many people realise that the Channel Islands are not part of the EU (or the UK) so I'm unsure what our position would be. I've seen the older posts where many folk are saying that rental is still the cheaper option but it certainly proves expensive if we visit often.Thanks again for the link.
You could try to get a
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Thu, 09/18/2014 - 13:49In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
You could try to get a Permesso di Soggiorno as some Australians have done and this should enable you to buy a car. We are not residents, but we keep on driving twice a year all the way from Spain, with an overnight stop on the French Riviera. Not sure about comparative costs, but at least we avoid the horror stories that we hear about car hire.
Its not a policy, its a law.
Submitted by modicasa on Fri, 09/19/2014 - 01:12In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Its not a policy, its a law. The state want to know who owns what and where they live. A car is a bene mobile, like a boat, a plane or a work of art - therefore its purchase and sale are registered. Personally I think its technically illegal under European law to not allow EU citizens to buy a car - but it would need a class action to change anything. There is no way around it, but you could call your Euro MP.
Thanks for this. It would
Submitted by channelislander1 on Fri, 09/19/2014 - 11:04In reply to Its not a policy, its a law. by modicasa
Thanks for this. It would just seem a very easy way to boost the Italian economy. We're okay to drive down at the moment but it gets expensive having overnight stops and paying for fuel. However, if we do stay our maximum 90 days, it's still a cheaper option than hiring.
Well, here is what the Police
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Fri, 09/19/2014 - 02:33In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Well, here is what the Police has to say http://www.foxpol.it/Intestazione-di-veicoli-cosa-e-cambiato-dal-19-gennaio-2013.htm
Again Gala (sorry for mis
Submitted by channelislander1 on Fri, 09/19/2014 - 11:01In reply to Well, here is what the Police by Gala Placidia
Back to the original question
Submitted by stefanaccio on Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:36In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Back to the original question, it is my understanding is that it is indeed OK for non residents to buy a car in Italy. The problem is rather one of registering the vehicle. I personally would not count on this changing any time in the near future. I doubt if the Italians would take kindly to know that 95% of the citizens of Bolzano have made the quick trip up to Austria to register and get tags for their cars.
I do not think that it would
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:21In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I do not think that it would be very easy for the Bolzano residents to get Austrian registration for their vehicles, as they will probably be asked for residence permits, or home ownership in the area... I wish that the EU will finally start regulating things like car registration within the Union...
No you cannot buy a car - it
Submitted by modicasa on Sat, 09/20/2014 - 01:17In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
As EU members we were told we
Submitted by Alan Johnston on Sun, 09/21/2014 - 11:40In reply to No you cannot buy a car - it by modicasa
I am temporarily living in
Submitted by stefanaccio on Sat, 09/20/2014 - 01:38In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Curiouser and curiouser!
Submitted by channelislander1 on Sat, 09/20/2014 - 03:43In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I tried yet again 2 months
Submitted by modicasa on Sat, 09/20/2014 - 09:48In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I tried yet again 2 months ago to buy a car for a client who is domicilato but not resident. The motorizzazzione, and PRA and RAC all told me the same thing. You cannot buy a car either new or second hand if you are not resident in Italy. However, South Tyrol like Aosta is a region with special statute and they may have exemption
Thanks Modicasa, that's
Submitted by channelislander1 on Sat, 09/20/2014 - 09:50In reply to I tried yet again 2 months by modicasa
Well, yesterday I was able to
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Wed, 10/01/2014 - 02:36In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Well, yesterday I was able to confirm what I said before. I met my non-EU friends, who are not permanent residents in Italy (they come twice a year for a few weeks) and who own property in the area and I was able to see their Italian registered car. They explained to me that first they had to obtain a "permesso di soggiorno ", then a "carta d'identità" (which can be issued not only to permanent residents, but also to those with a DOMICILE in Italy, and that is all. Italian citizens living overseas must have a certificate of inscription in their local AIRE. I know, this contradicts some of the information that circulates; however, my friends have done it. Perhaps, and this is not unusual, different regions interpret regulations in a different way, we are in Tuscany, lucca Province; however, it should be the same in Veneto, Liguria, Lazio, Abruzzo or Sicily. I hope that this helps http://www.aci.it/i-servizi/guide-utili/guida-pratiche-auto/acquisto-veicolo-nuovo.html
Interesting Gaia. I too had
Submitted by modicasa on Wed, 10/01/2014 - 03:01In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Interesting Gaia. I too had clients who bought a new car with a carta d'identita 4 years ago. Now it doesnt seem possible. Perhaps being NonEU and going through the PdS channels helps, but an EU citizen cannot be given a C/I only for domicile. Ive tried and failed....
Modi, my friends purchased
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Wed, 10/01/2014 - 07:30In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Modi, my friends purchased their car 3 months ago. So it is something very recent. Perhaps, as you said, the reason is that they are non-EUROPE (Australians). Their "permesso" does not allow them to work. I am going to keep on checking, because it is a discriminatory rule against EU citizens....I shall keep everyone informed with follow ups on this same thread....
In my opinon it is not all
Submitted by stefanaccio on Wed, 10/01/2014 - 08:22In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In my opinon it is not all that confusing. As simply as possible:1. BUYING a car and REGISTERING a car are two different things. My experience is that anyone can buy a car in Italy. 2. Except for sporadic exceptions noted in the past, likely due to the fact that the rules were inconsistently applied, in general to register a car you need to be a resident of Italy. I am an Italian citizen, living in Germany for the time being, and am a enrolled in AIRE. The "R" in this word stands for residency. I have one car registered in Italy with Italian tags (and another legally registered here in Germany with German tags because I am a a resident here also). If you are a resident of Italy you can register a car, get an ID card, buy a house at prima casa tax rates, join the health system, and so on. The downside of residency is that if are a resident of Italy, and also live there (which would exclude you from AIRE) then you can bet that someone is going to come looking for you such that you pay income taxes on your earnings, property taxes whereever it might be located, and so on. Hope this is clear....
As an Italian residing
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Wed, 10/01/2014 - 08:29In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
As an Italian residing overseas and registered with AIRE, you have no problems to buy or register a car in Italy; however, look under Nr 7 of these answers from the government and it should be possible to buy or register a car providing the person is registered with the local Anagrafe. Then, of course, it is up to the Comune to ask for all relevant documents, such as permesso.di soggiorno , etc. also, it is up to the particular Comune to issue the identity card... In any case, have a look http://www.mit.gov.it/mit/site.php?p=cm&o=vd&id=308#7
An American I knew, brought
Submitted by Mary Judge on Mon, 10/06/2014 - 02:01In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
An American I knew, brought over his huge Volvo with American tags: therefore he was able to drive for many years this way, but tenchically, say if you buy a car, or bring one in, it can have foreign plates (must be insured in both places) and driven I think for one year, before it has to be "normalized" Keep in mind however, that IF you do have an italian car registered in Italy, you must also have an Italian driving license!!! THAT is a entire other ridiculous process, long and expensive and the test is outmoded and exremely difficult to pass. Long and tedious, filled with tenchical questions and many friends I know have failed it many times. Oiy.
An American I knew, brought
Submitted by Mary Judge on Mon, 10/06/2014 - 02:04In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
An American I knew, brought over his huge Volvo with American tags: therefore he was able to drive for many years this way, but technically, say if you buy a car, or bring one in, it can have foreign plates (must be insured in both places) and driven I think for one year, before it has to be "normalized" Keep in mind however, that IF you do have an italian car registered in Italy, you must also have an Italian driving license!!! THAT is a entire other ridiculous process, long and expensive , the test is outmoded and exremely difficult to pass. Long and tedious, filled with crazy questions and many friends I know have failed it many times. Oiy.
If you are registered in AIRE
Submitted by stefanaccio on Mon, 10/06/2014 - 02:29In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Hi: what is AIRE?
Submitted by Mary Judge on Mon, 10/06/2014 - 02:54In reply to If you are registered in AIRE by stefanaccio
Anagrafe degli Italiani
Submitted by stefanaccio on Mon, 10/06/2014 - 03:17In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec