We often used to come across
Submitted by Andiamo on Wed, 03/09/2011 - 15:34In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
We often used to come across porcupines (aka istrice) but unfortunately we saw more dead at the side of the road than alive. We saw them singly, in pairs and in groups of 3 or 4, presumably a family. On one occasion we startled a couple as they were crossing a road and their spines were instantly raised - neither made to charge, they both held their ground, but the transformation was incredible making them look twice the size, and you certainly got the impression they were not to be approached unless you wanted to end up like a pincushion! I think they do raid the veggy patch and I seem to remember someone on the forum had a problem with them making off with dogs' toys left in the garden! We were in Le Marche, how extensively they are to be found I don't know but they were certainly a regular feature of the childrens' Italian textbooks when in primary school.
Istrici (Hystrix cristata)
Submitted by Fillide on Wed, 03/09/2011 - 15:55In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I do so hate these creatures - beautiful as they are - if you get up close they have little pink feet exactly like a human toddler! They are a complete nightmare if they take up residence in a spot which you are trying to garden - when they get really hungry they even tackle spiny agaves, and you can forget spuds or daffodils (which I always thought were poisonous, but clearly not to istrici.) It can be fun getting shot at by a male out on the prowl for a lady friend, but only if you are behind a nice laminated windscreen. One night we were crawling along a rutted track in the car, and boyo porcupine decided we were a rival. So, facing the car, he raised all his big projectile spines (they raise them almost 180degrees for attack mode, so they fire forward) and let fly. He ruined a windscreen wiper and disturbed the windscreen seal.... I think they are fairly widespread in central Italy (maybe all over the country) and they like cultivated land so long as there is a bit of bosco around for cover.
Interesting, our neighbours,
Submitted by Angie and Robert on Wed, 03/09/2011 - 17:37In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Interesting, our neighbours, translate that as being a hedgehog,but porcupine a different beast, so amazing, saw one going down our road one dark night,a privilege, sadly did not want to come and visit us, and has not been muching on ours or neighbours ortos, perhaps he took exception to you Fillide?.
Porcospino (Erinaceus europaeus)
Submitted by Fillide on Wed, 03/09/2011 - 18:03In reply to Interesting, our neighbours, by Angie and Robert
I agree, yer porcospino is a hedgehog, also commonly called un riccio, but yer istrice is a porcupine! Shows how useful Latin nomenclature is. And why do the Italians (and almost every other language) speak of coccodrilli, whereas us Brits call them crocodiles! In that case I think the English got it wrong...
In many dictionaries they
Submitted by Andiamo on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 04:12In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In many dictionaries they list both 'porcospino' and 'istrice' as the translation for porcupine with 'riccio' being a hedgehog. Outside the dictionary we never came across 'porcospino', to our neighbours and friends a porcupine was always an istrice and a hedgehog always a riccio - as in the all the childrens' schoolbooks, when both were common features especially when the exercise was to break the word down into syllables! As Maninmarche queried the possibility of their charging I assumed he was referring to a porcupine rather than a hedgehog!
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We have not actually met a porcupine but found a spine from one on the road by our house. No problems with vegetable garden being devoured (other than the lizzards eating the strawberries last year!). We hope to one day see the actual creature as we really enjoy witnessing the local wild life. We have deer, badger (the cutest badger young were wandering along the road back in January), Golden Eagle, fox, mink, that we have seen and hoof prints that look like boar occasionally appear. I suspect from the noises at night there is much more out there that we have yet to meet. We live at Ripatransone, Marche.
Porcupines
Submitted by sanseverino on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 07:24In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
We came across a family of 5 when returning one evening to our house - amazing to see.They seem to be mainly nocturnal creatures but I didn't know they shot at you! What I find most odd is the fact that outside Africa ( I believe) they can only be found in Italy! I am guessing the Romans introduced them to the country but I find it odd they didnt spread into other countries.Would be fascinated to know the story..!
Myth...
Submitted by Flip on Thu, 03/10/2011 - 08:38In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
It is common held belief that Porcupines can Project or fire their Quills...they cannot. The quills will fall out on contact with a predator or lodge in it, but the animal has no mechanism to allow these to be projected. The only way they can appear to be projected at an object is when they shake themselves and some are dislodged. This is fact ( studied these Rodents for a thesis)
guard the pooch!
Submitted by elliven on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 16:38In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Where in Le Marche?
Submitted by TheItalianLife on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 03:29In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
How exciting! I have never seen one of these alive: we are down in Campofilone so it may be too densely populated for them to feel comfortable. Man in Marche, where did you see these spiky beasts? I saw two wild boars in Umbria last month, near Umbertide as well as a badger on the same road. Sadly they were not playing together. Boars cause huge damage in the fields around the property at Umbertide and we have had to put up electric barriers but they still get in from time to time I find it amazing how the wildlife in Italy has thrived. 20 years ago there were so few birds and now at Campofilone we see Kites, falcons, Montagues' Harrier, Golden Oriel, Nightingale and woodpeckers F
Widlife here
Submitted by sprostoni on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 04:22In reply to Where in Le Marche? by TheItalianLife
I agree TheItalianLife, life here AND the wildlife here is great, (not sure about the scorpions, grass snakes and vipers !!). All is well, as this year we have seen a 'pack' (?) of 6 cinghiale ambling in the fields 20 metres below our house, and we regularly see deer (not sure what type they are - white/cream stripe across their bums ?) and much less regularly porcupines. Havn't seen any fireflies yet? A few days ago I was having a cuppa on a bench that we have in the garden and heard this (sort of) barking type of noise behind me.............nervously looking around ...........it was a big deer 30 metres away, leaping through the grasses 'roaring' as it went............ Wow! Also, one of the birds that we get here (Le Marche)is the Hoopoe............what a beauty!!! S
wild life
Submitted by sebastiano on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:36In reply to Widlife here by sprostoni
yes, despite illeagal hunting there are plenty of Roebuck around they're the small brown "deer" with white bums.The istrici which the regional government brought in to repopulate them seem to prosper on our and neighbouring cultivations to the point that i know quite a few people who have shot and eaten them.... it's too early for fire flies and certainly too cold at the moment they are usually found in june with the ripening grain but die off after the harvest there are a lot of migratory birds around at the moment like the pairs of little tortorelle (they look like tiny pigeons) and like to fuff around in the middle of quiet roads, the "lupopa" is also back a strange cockatoo looking bird with a crest on it's head. two years ago the regional government helicoptered here baskets of vipers (for repopulation!?) i hope they threw a few into their Ancona gardens too!
Fireflies
Submitted by TheItalianLife on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:04In reply to Widlife here by sprostoni
Fireflies in MAY !!!!
Submitted by sprostoni on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 12:28In reply to Fireflies by TheItalianLife
With the greatest respect, we DEFINITELY see fireflies here (Penna San Giovanni) in May, certainly for the last three years we have, we usually have a few friends around here in the second week of May and they are all delighted to see them. I LOVE the idea that someone thought they were LED lights in the bushes HA!!! S
Our first firefly arrived 3
Submitted by Angie and Robert on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 04:06In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Not yet here
Submitted by sprostoni on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:25In reply to Our first firefly arrived 3 by Angie and Robert
Hello Sprostoni Here in
Submitted by TheItalianLife on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 15:18In reply to Not yet here by sprostoni
Hello Sprostoni Here in Switzerland we have a lot of Storks nesting in the trees behind our house. because we overlook the zoo we have other exotics to watch but the storks are extraordinary: They make a clacking noise with their beaks as a part of their mating communications. They fly like pteradactyls! Our neighbours can see into the nest but from our place i have not seen babies (storklets) yet
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Oh dear, what a set up for
Submitted by TheItalianLife on Mon, 05/09/2011 - 07:45In reply to Oh dear, what a set up for by TheItalianLife
Porcupine
Submitted by michelangelo on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 05:24In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
We had a close encounter with one last year when we were returning to our apartment in Ripalvella, it was in the middle of the road on a blind bend and we missed it by inches. Last week we saw another foraging by the roadside and it casually looked up then continued whatever it was doing. On our last day there last week I had to drive down to Marsciano and there was one dead in the road. When I returned it had been moved, now I know they are edible I have to assume someone claimed it as road kill. As for other creatures we have had wild boars jump from the roadside and cross our path (very scary), a very scraggy fox in the borgo and a young deer appearing from a steep ravine next to the apartment and trotting off to the fields next door.
Bah! Don't get me started on boar!
Submitted by Allan Mason on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 16:37In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Never in nearly five years have we seen a porcupine here in the hills below the Gran Sasso (550 m.s.l.m.) and we've yet to see a Hoopoe (the "cockatoo looking bird with a crest on it's head" mentioned by Sebastiano above). We do get fireflies, but they've yet to put in an appearance this year. The boar, however, are here in vast numbers. Our house is in a no-hunting zone and the buggers seem to understand they're in no danger around our place. We hadn't seen much of them over the winter, then, a couple week ago, we looked out the window and counted 30 rooting around in the wooded area near the house, some no more than five metres from the house. Once we did a count, we opened the window, clapped hands and shouted to move them on and stop their rooting about. When we looked the next day, we were amazed at the size of rocks they had dug up out of the hillside on their search for... what? acorns? truffles? grubs? No idea. We're not terribly fussy about our garden, but they do make a mess even when they visit in small family groups. Huge mobs are just a total pain. I do wonder what's going on with the population management of these things. Their numbers do seem to wax and wane quite drastically from year to year. Al
fireflies like it warm
Submitted by elliven on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 17:49In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Glow worms
Submitted by Allan Mason on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 02:53In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
We have lots of fireflies around here on a good night, but I've only ever spotted one glow worm. It's entirely possible that this is because I've just not been out looking in the right places at the right time. The one I did see was on a gravel area at the bottom of the house wall, but I have no idea what that says about their preferred display area. I managed to pick the creature up and bring it into the light for a closer look; it was a very odd looking thing. The glow was interesting, too, in that it was constant rather than blinking like the fireflies. Al