I totally agree with you,
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Sun, 11/25/2012 - 03:37In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Not half as interesting as
Submitted by Esme on Sun, 11/25/2012 - 05:52In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
What seems to be clear, at
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Sun, 11/25/2012 - 08:32In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Thanks Fillide for this clear explanation, especially since politics is such a major topic of conversation. I have lived in a few different countries and I find it always takes me a while to get my head around the politics of a country - especially the politicians. Italy seems especially difficult to understand... or is that just me?!
for what its worth
Submitted by Ram on Mon, 11/26/2012 - 06:12In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Renzi got the votes of the young and the north, Bersani the south and the old - so its the usual split. The question for me, at the risk of sounding new labour in the early 90's, is that Renzi is the only candidate who is 'modern' enough to drag the party out of its 1960's mindset. We live in an Italy where work contracts and labour relations are stuck in about 1965 - with the right to work, right to a house and all the other guff that other centre left parties have quietly dropped over the last 20 years. Renzi represents the possibility of a centre left/centre party that a) could have a decent majority and b) shed the ex hard left, WRP types and actually modernise the country. Unfortunately BErsani will win, cos he's a 'safe pair of hands'. The left will fracture, Berlusonci will jump back into the ring and nothing will change.
Still some hope for Renzi
Submitted by Fillide on Mon, 11/26/2012 - 08:53In reply to for what its worth by Ram
I entirely agree Ram, it does feel very like the UK labour party just pre-Blair, although this time the issues are less about how left leaning the candidates are - more about their age or youth and their history. We haven't seen the final figures yet, but it seems highly improbable that Bersani will pick up 50% + 1, so it looks as if we will see a run-off between Bersani and Renzi at the weekend. My assumption would be that Renzi should pick up the Vendola votes, although Vendola is disappointing me at the moment by playing old-style politics and remaining coy about his choice between the two. That is a bit stupid in my opinion, because if Bersani offers Vendola some irresistible deal it will come to nothing, because (IMO) a Bersani led PD is much less likely to win a general election than a Renzi led PD. (Assuming we ever get to a general election!)
Italian Politics
Submitted by Fabbriche on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 05:27In reply to Still some hope for Renzi by Fillide
Would just like to add my thanks for Fillide's explanation. I can't influence the outcome but it does help me to see a little more clearly what is happening in Italian politics at the moment. It would be great to see Italy moving away from the possibility of Berlusconi making a comeback. Fabbriche
x Ram....
Submitted by sebastiano on Fri, 11/30/2012 - 03:37In reply to for what its worth by Ram
I wish Bersani would decide
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Mon, 11/26/2012 - 07:44In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Italian politics
Submitted by Susin on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 07:44In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec