Presumably your ground floor
Submitted by modicasa on Fri, 08/17/2018 - 03:01In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Presumably your ground floor is classed a deposit/magazzino/stalle or such like - and therefore isnt recognised as habitable. For it to be habitable it needs light, height and satsify all the requirements for dwelling. Making it habitable obvioulsy increases your living space - and as such the square metrage of your home, with increases in taxes and imposte. To make non habitable areas habitable the comune will ask for projects, building concessions etc - and they mount up. The actual costs at the catasto and comune for a change of use arent that great, but the comune decides on its fees.
Thanks for reply.
Submitted by Stuart HC on Fri, 08/17/2018 - 09:55In reply to Presumably your ground floor by modicasa
Thanks for reply.All your points are correct and as usual everthing manages to get hidden at the beginning and creeps up and hits you in the eye later. Still, someone has to pay for the grossly overstaffed communes and civil service (service? - thats a joke !!)Thanks again.
Unfortunately the time to
Submitted by stevegwmonkseaton on Fri, 08/17/2018 - 04:41In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Unfortunately the time to look into this is before you buy, but many go by what it would cost in their home country or what they are told by the people selling e.g. agents. It would be an ideal world if we could get quotes from builders for what we want to do before we buy. Better still if those quotes included everything! Hopefully others will read your post and answers and benefit from it.
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Sorry Stuart, it was more a
Submitted by stevegwmonkseaton on Fri, 08/17/2018 - 15:29My reply was a little terse..
Submitted by Stuart HC on Sat, 08/18/2018 - 11:04In reply to Sorry Stuart, it was more a by stevegwmonkseaton
My reply was a little terse......apologies for that. Lets hope your warning is heeded by others. This is the third time in twenty years that we have fallen into the trap of misinformation from agents and geometers/architects etc. You'd think one would learn.....................ha !!I still make the point that the sheer cost of 'urbanisation' is totally over the top for what is involved and for what the Commune is required to do. Still, as they say, if you don't like it..........................Thanks again.
First of all, a question
Submitted by Ugo on Sat, 08/18/2018 - 13:47In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
First of all, a question arises spontaneously - If I understand you well, Stuart, you are not a major agricultural entrepreneur, that is, you do not get 75% of your economic means of subsistence from the cultivation of the land. So how did the notary register the deed of purchase, the non-agricultural portion of the house, in favor of a non-agricultural buyer? - The deed of sale, in this case is < nullo > ( = not valid ) ! - The Italian law establishes that in order to sell an agricultural property, to a buyer who is not a farmer, it is necessary to transform the agricultural property into an urban building (that is to say, urbanize it) !
Falling into traps is
Submitted by modicasa on Sun, 08/19/2018 - 02:30In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Falling into traps is relative. As a buyer you have the right to ask for information - and any property that is registered as an A at the catasto is a house. If its a C or D then its not. If you choose to sleep in a stalle or deposito then its your choice, nobody can stop you, but you cant say that your converted cantina is a 'room', because it isnt. A 2 bed house that has 3 bedrooms in the old barn (which is still registered as a barn) cannot be sold as a 5 bed house. Your agent has a legal requirement not to tell you a pack of lies, as has the seller. The visure for a property are public and you can see them - it will tell you exactly what you are buying.
Modi , sorry if I correct
Submitted by Ugo on Sun, 08/19/2018 - 04:23In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Modi , sorry if I correct you:1> you base your reasoning on the belief that a non-Italian buyer, can know how to read and, above all understand the real meaning, of the Italian land registry (which in truth are also obscure to many Italians born in Italy), Read a cadastral survey, for a non-employee (for example, you or me), it may be similar to reading the inscriptions of an Egyptian tomb, without having the Rosetta stone. 2> Stuart, can safely sleep in any stable, but can NOT buy a STABLE, if it is not a farmer3> no Italian notary, can register the sale of a STABLE, to a buyer who is not a farmer (according to the Italian notary law)
Sorry .. in italian language
Submitted by Ugo on Sun, 08/19/2018 - 04:33In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
If an agricutlural building
Submitted by modicasa on Mon, 08/20/2018 - 03:37In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Ugo, its not really the
Submitted by modicasa on Mon, 08/20/2018 - 02:55In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I know this and you ... but
Submitted by Ugo on Mon, 08/20/2018 - 04:03In reply to Ugo, its not really the by modicasa
I know this and you ... but most foreign buyers do not ..., I invite you to have a good read ... here ..https://www.salcimeurope.com/click on Blog ..